Members HeWhoFishesSolo Posted November 14, 2014 Members Posted November 14, 2014 I'll be the first to admit I don't have all the facts here, but if something has the POTENTIAL to do so much harm, I'd rather err on the side of caution and keep up the pre-emptive ban. As the old saying goes: It doesn't do any good to close the barn door after the horse is out----or something like that. Put the burden on the parties that want change to prove the change WON'T be harmful. Invert Interest- as your interests note "respect for God and Creation", I share the same. Maybe we should leave God's creations in the place where He created them? I agree 100% with every thing you said here. I'm glad you went "back to the garden", i dont know why that would be an implied punch line.
Fly_Guy Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 These threads on crawdads end up in the strangest places: upper taney and stream team. If anything, this is undeniable proof that however well you think you can contain a crawdad, some will escape.
fishinwrench Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 I agree 100% with every thing you said here. I'm glad you went "back to the garden", i dont know why that would be an implied punch line. Maybe I should have capitalized "WE". (as in us humans). Get it now?
Members Invert Interest Posted November 16, 2014 Author Members Posted November 16, 2014 Hi wayne. If an exemption is made for the Australian Lobsters on condition that they require climate management to survive.. We can all have happy native dads living unmolested, and our delicious lobster on the side. Ive been to a few farm demonstrations - you know, tour and BBQ promoting this and that-- i would so go for that and everyone would be able to keep up with the latest findings. ty i am not in affiliation with any anti agriculture movement, nor against supporting and maintaining our natural Missouri. No Politics, just home grown in my own yard or building.
Members Invert Interest Posted November 16, 2014 Author Members Posted November 16, 2014 It would be to our advantage to acknowledge that the Australian Blue Lobster and Red Claw are not the same creature as our native crawfish, of any variety. It is possible to save and preserve our native crawfish, AND benefit from an independent source of ready Lobster grill. UNLIKE our own crawfish, the Blue Marron and Red Claw require manual climate/habitat control. Missouri is too cold, the Blue and Red lacking the most basic survival adaptations, cant burrow, hibernate,or even blend in with their surroundings. around 55 degrees ( yes, thats also water temp ) all normal functions stop-and they begin to die- without intervention, every scavenger would have them long before then. At any life stage. The younger the specimen, the more delicate (eggs/young would die on the tail).THAT said, think : Fresh lobster at will. independent of what we can scrape together for an imported batch for that boil/after game party. Native Crawfish blissfully unaware and free to reproduce and get bigger for those of us who enjoy the sport of crawfishing. Happy Fishing
Members Invert Interest Posted November 16, 2014 Author Members Posted November 16, 2014 For those who just dropped in, see Giant Crawdads thread for a little background. ty
Chief Grey Bear Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Why are you working so hard to sell us on it? Obviously no one here is hip on importing live speciems to the Ozarks. Do you think if you some how convert us to your side then the MDC will lift the ban for you? Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
Members HeWhoFishesSolo Posted November 16, 2014 Members Posted November 16, 2014 There is something very odd about the fisrt couple posts he made. (Basically) by the way i'm on SSI... Regular folks don't say that. Theres something up with this person's insisting we're all on board with this. (Claim you cant afford fast food so raising non native crawdads is your remedy for that?)
Members Invert Interest Posted November 16, 2014 Author Members Posted November 16, 2014 checking out Stick Fins was part of my research for the possible home aquaponics project. They have a price list for washed/scrubbed/chilled/etc-i would think this treatment would make them "Live" enough to eat, but they, as all should be, are very sensitive with state by state allowances for such, and as ive only been into the info gathering- I, nor anyone i know have actually imported, or attempted to import, anything like this, so im not sure on the particulars of how.
Members Invert Interest Posted November 16, 2014 Author Members Posted November 16, 2014 HeWhoSleepsSolo: i think you're looking for the thread three doors down on the far left. The one with the lights on, but nobodies home, help yourself. ty
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