Denver At Kansas City

[ozark trout fisher]

Well I did end up watching it. Broncos running game was great. Makes it tough to stop Peyton when you have to load the box and have 1 on 1 coverage.

Hard to really enjoy the win though with the Eric Berry situation. Hope it doesn't turn out to be anything serious.

[Wayne SW/MO]

Yeah the offensive line forgot what day it was.

[Flysmallie]

Yeah the offensive line forgot what day it was.

There are many more problems than the offensive line. When the defense knows that you aren't going to throw downfield, ever, then they can overload the line and spend all day coming after you. Plus if you do try to throw it 9 times out of 10 it's either poorly thrown or the WR drops it. Yep, many more problems than the line. The line is not good, but neither are the QB and WRs.

[Wayne SW/MO]

There are many more problems than the offensive line. When the defense knows that you aren't going to throw downfield, ever, then they can overload the line and spend all day coming after you. Plus if you do try to throw it 9 times out of 10 it's either poorly thrown or the WR drops it. Yep, many more problems than the line. The line is not good, but neither are the QB and WRs.

I have to disagree with that. It's hard to pass or run when you're surrounded by the other teams defense. No matter how fast the release is on short passes, it takes time for a back to get downfield. The sacks tell a story and so does the number of times Charles was stopped short. FYI Smith had better stats than Manning.

[Flysmallie]

I have to disagree with that. It's hard to pass or run when you're surrounded by the other teams defense.

That's true but it's also hard to pass when you suck at it. If you have no passing game then they don't have to cover as much and they can put more focus on attacking the line of scrimmage. That's why you need a decent passing game, to open up the line of scrimmage a bit. If they are worried that you are going to throw a bomb downfield then it opens up a lot of options for you. NOBODY is worried about Smith going downfield. If he does happen to get the ball down there one of his WRs will just bat it to the turf. There is no threat so opposing teams will just keep loading the box and coming after the only player they have. KC doesn't have the best line in the world but no line is going to be able to put up with that kind of pressure.

[Quillback]

It does hurt when you have a QB that can't complete a pass over 20 yards.

[Wayne SW/MO]

It does hurt when you have a QB that can't complete a pass over 20 yards.

"However, the next time someone is trashing Alex Smith and tells you that he has a “noodle arm”, only checks down, and always plays it safe you can tell them “Actually, last season the average Alex Smith completion was in the air longer than the average Aaron Rodgers completion and Smith was in the top ten for completion percentage for passes thrown 20 yards or further.” That should shut them up for a little while."

It also helps if you have receivers who can run 21 yards on the same day the play is called.

[Flysmallie]

Yeah it's not all Smith's fault. Meaning you couldn't bring in another QB and get much better results. A lot of it falls on the WR. And a good amount falls on the coaches. Brought in Thomas to be some kind of speed threat but all you do is throw to him out in the flat? If they haven't noticed someone needs to let them know that the play is not working.

[Quillback]

Well you can be in the top 10 if you hardly ever throw the ball over 20 yards - percentage means nothing. And Rodgers was hurt and missed 6 or 7 games last year.

But comparing Rodgers and Smith for stats so far this year, I see Smith at 6.8 yards/attempt, Rodgers 10.1. Smith 2364 passing yards, 15 TD's. Rodgers 32 TD's 3326 passing yards. It's laughable to think Alex Smith compares in any way to Aaron Rodgers.

[Wayne SW/MO]

Well first off averges don't take into account number of games. The bottom line is Smith's numbers aren't that bad overall. And I don't care how many QB's you've seen you haven't seen any perform all that well enduring 6 SACKS!!!! Most High school QB's don't have put up with that. So the bottom line is Smith didn't look all that bad compared to Manning and when you have overcome a lousy 35 yards rushing and 6 sacks critisizing him for the loss is riduiculas.