gitnby Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Champs earlier post about the lurkers got me to thinking. Do I contribute as much as I receive? No way! But, at least I can add a little now and then. I've been fishing the Ned almost a year now, and it has moved up to 2nd place for me in terms of a "gotta use it every time out" bait. The old Fish Doctor is still hanging in there in 1st, but is losing ground fast! Anyway, some may remember that I modify the elastech (Zero or ZinkerZ) on the end that holds the jig head. I pinch the thicker end of bait and then snip the 'bulge' with scissors. This creates a little bit of a concave effect which makes it real easy to put a drop of glue in, and it really snugs the bait up around the head. Just put the bait on the hook, and squeeze it up to the head, pull the bait down a bit and drop your glue in the little 'pocket'. It works great and I never have one slip down the hook, even after several fish, snags, etc. Well, one day, I was rigging up a few Neds to keep on hand, and I discovered another variation that I'm really liking! For some reason, I couldn't find any of the mushroom-type heads that I usually prefer. So, I tried using some of the heads I use for tube baits. This pic is representative of the type I'm talking about. So, I snip the thick end as I normally do, but then I take the scissors and slice the first 1/2" like a little sandwich. Then, run the hook down from the top and out the side like you normally would, only about a 1/2' farther down. Push the jig head down into your little sandwich, and poke the eyelet thru the bait about a 1/4" from top. peel back the bottom, drip your glue on the lead, close it up and squeeze together with your fingers until it sets. I know this sounds crazy, but the result is great action of the bait, and way less snags in rocks and crevices. Since the elastech covers the lead head, it literally bounces along the bottom and will pull out of most snags pretty easily. I have had the best luck with it in deeper water, in places I had never fished with the Ned. Stair-stepping down bluff walls is a great way to fish this thing. The bait will not ride 'tail up' quite as well as with the mushroom head, but I have caught a bunch of fish on it the past month or so. Have only had one time where the bait separated at the top, so it holds up pretty well. Sorry for such a long post, but wanted to try to be as specicific as possible on this modification.
J-Doc Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Why is it that you have to use such a small weight anyway? I forgot. I used this in a 1/8oz Thursday with success. http://www.arkiejigs.com/ARKIE-WEEDLESS-STAND-UP-HEADS-p/wmhp.htm Need marine repair? Send our own forum friend "fishinwrench" a message. He will treat you like family!!! I owe fishinwrench a lot of thanks. He has been a great mechanic with lots of patience!
gitnby Posted January 4, 2015 Author Posted January 4, 2015 I have used that same Arkie head in 1/8 for regular Ned setup. 3/0 hook on it. The tube head I used for the goofy one I described above was 3/16, but appears to be a 2/0 hook?
dtrs5kprs Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 The big hooks kill a lot of the natural action. Anything over 1/0 is a lot, even #1 really.
J-Doc Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 How much action can a thick 3" worm have anyway?? Need marine repair? Send our own forum friend "fishinwrench" a message. He will treat you like family!!! I owe fishinwrench a lot of thanks. He has been a great mechanic with lots of patience!
dtrs5kprs Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 How much action can a thick 3" worm have anyway?? Lots if it is elaztech. Have a bunch of retrieve videos I worked on for Ned but have not loaded. Shows what the little worm does on a light head. Also a key if you are gliding or swimming it shallow. The 1/8 and up have a place for gluing it to the bottom, but the little heads and hooks are different. That 3/0 eats up a lot of length that is left free with a #2 or #1. Not that it won't work bigger, just won't work as well. Ask anyone who has swallowed pride and gone small.
J-Doc Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Should make a super slow fall rate with smaller head. I was fishing 18-23ft and wanted it down quick. Even with 1/8oz, it took a while. I was using Zman also. Used 6lb braid and if I hadn't have barely felt a thump and watched my rod tip, I would have missed the bite it was so subtle. If you can't feel a bite on 6lb braid on a St Croix spinning rod with extra fast action tip.......you need to start throwing c-rigs!! Lol This was my dropshot rod and I can feel a knat fart under water on that rod. Point is, the bite was so very subtle. Need marine repair? Send our own forum friend "fishinwrench" a message. He will treat you like family!!! I owe fishinwrench a lot of thanks. He has been a great mechanic with lots of patience!
J-Doc Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 I'd like to see some of these videos if you can share. Need marine repair? Send our own forum friend "fishinwrench" a message. He will treat you like family!!! I owe fishinwrench a lot of thanks. He has been a great mechanic with lots of patience!
snakem Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 maybe i missed something a long time back , but when i glue it on it melts the worm ,and they have been tearing up real easy.i'am i using the wrong type of glue.
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