esox niger Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 so ive been fly only for 25 years and somehow i ended up with a spinning rod and now its gone "full bait"... never go full bait! anyhow, i hit the creek the other day with a cork bobber and some worms and it was non stop action. Went back at night with some home-made glow in the dark bobbers and they just didn't quite cut it... the easiest way to detect a strike was to reel slowly and feel it that way, but you don't get the 2-3min marinade time you might wan't out in the honey hole. which got me thinking ... why not have the bobber and the hook trade places? this eliminates the slack "L" in the line and should be just as good at strike detection as most bottom rigs. Therefore you don't need to SEE your bobber and you can fish suspended baits at night... am i missing something? anyone seen this done... a quick google search turned up nothing.. another claim to fame? snagged in outlet 3 1 Missouriflies.com Online Carp Fly Store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 thats cool i like the idea im sure it would be awkward at first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esox niger Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 took it out after dark I did manage a medium/small channel cat blind...felt the take nice and solid. had another nibble while watching bobber...didn't see it flinch but felt the fish.. no worm on reel up so chances are it was another fish. ...seems like the creek slows down at night...almost like the fish are sight feeding by day? anyhow... all in all the bait ends up moving if you want to stay in contact with it but its my impression hook ups are more solid/direct and detectable. I will have to fish it by day and see how it all works out. Missouriflies.com Online Carp Fly Store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esox niger Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 here's another idea for a deep dead drift or deep current swinger... i think this will work too. day or night as well. proofs in the puddin... and its never a bad idea to use a weedless hook either snagged in outlet 3 1 Missouriflies.com Online Carp Fly Store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Take a look at how Europeans do their live bait sinker/bobber/hook setups. They as a group have spent a lot of time working out details. I've never fished your rig and I haven't seen it described locally, but there's not a lot new under the sun. I think I remember InFisherman doing an illustration of similar rigs. Keep playing with it. I think it can be really productive for you and I lool forward to hearing how you do with it esox niger 1 Every Saint has a past, every Sinner has a future. On Instagram @hamneedstofish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 it looks like it can get all taggled up on the cast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esox niger Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 4 hours ago, marcus said: it looks like it can get all taggled up on the cast in 4-5 hours it wrapped around the braid/mono leader knot 4-5 times... if the leader was longer, it probably wouldnt hang up there.. it was never a knot just a wrap and was easy to deal with.... Missouriflies.com Online Carp Fly Store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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