Not Today

[wily]

Part of Bill Babler's previous msg --

If I were fishing out of the back of a boat, depending on the location, I would not hesitate to throw the rogue in clear water or drag a rig in the stained water.

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Bill, I like what you say here about the rig in stained water, but i was wondering what bait you would use this time of year? i tried this past weekend at grand lake, but didn't get a bite. I used an 8" Zoom Lizard and a 4" Lake Fork crawdad. I figured if they were gonna eat...they'd want a big bait.

[CMAC]

Babler,

Well put, guaranteed money for you this weekend.

Sometimes I think a co-angler would be better off to invest his money in five guide trips per year than fish out of the back of the boat. Alot less stress and energy.

Take care.

[bassman1308]

cmac: i agree 100%. i've heard guys say ' they learned so many new techniques' from fishing as a co-angler. what they don't learn is when and where to use these techniques. a good guide will help you but it's hard to beat 'time on the water.'

we fished TR yesterday. about 20 bass, mostly small but 5 keepers with a 4 1/2 and 6. much better than monday but i spent to much time with the jig that day.

[CMAC]

cmac: i agree 100%. i've heard guys say ' they learned so many new techniques' from fishing as a co-angler. what they don't learn is when and where to use these techniques. a good guide will help you but it's hard to beat 'time on the water.'

we fished TR yesterday. about 20 bass, mostly small but 5 keepers with a 4 1/2 and 6. much better than monday but i spent to much time with the jig that day.

Time on the water, how true is that. Pretty soon you start thinking like a fish.

Sounds like yesterday was a good day.

[Bill Babler]

Men, your partisipation on this site is fantastic and we really appreciate it.

The back of a boat is sometimes a very poor way to garner information. 90% of the time if you are a local or have fished the pond very much, you know as much as the guy on the trolling motor, who works a 9 to 5 and just has the bucks to spend on the big ticket boat and the tournament top fees.

If you are lucky enough to get the full time pay for play guys its great. Most times not. If there is a full field in the tournaments, there are really only about 20 guys that have a shot. You don't draw one of those, enjoy the day not getting any fishing water out of the back of a $50,000 boat.

Lake O, Grand, The Rock, Truman and most of the ARkie lakes have guides that fish them every day that just want nothing more than to see you catch fish and to learn ya how to do it. You ain't gettin that in the back seat of a Heartland Tournament Boat.

You are on your own, and you better know how and what you are doing when you get there, with out any help from the dude in the front.

You better be great at fishing used water and be very adept at doing something different than the guy in the front, unless he is completely incompitent. Most times he is.

There are enough who are really good however to make any of these local derby's very tough.

If you are dragging or fishing out of the back of a boat on the rock and are dragging anything except a green pumpkin 4 inch fish Dr. you are in trouble.

Sometime a 4 inch mini lizzard will get some att. but for the most part they love the Dr.

On the Rock, from the back fish the Dr. or a PBJ jig. in the rivers and a stick this time of year in the clear water. If your pro is catching fish you will too, even on used water.