Sullivan river Gage fixed?

[BassMaster#1]

Was wondering if the sullivan river gage has been fixed or if it is still down?  A little off because we just got rain, but the gage in steelville is reading 516,  Sullivan is reading 760, and Eureka reading 640.  Steelville and Eureka have pretty much been below the norm last few months because no rain, but why has sullivan been above the norm all summer?  Wondering if the moved the gage to a differnt location or higher than previous location?  If this is the case sort of throws all refrence points off when reading Sullivan gage. 

[Seth]

Not sure about what normal readings for the Sullivan gauge is, but I know I screwed up and smoked some rocks down by Roaring Spring and tore my boat up the Wednesday before last when it was showing 3.85. There is a rock sticking a foot out of the water in the middle of that spot and I should have went to the right side of it and I went left. We made it back to Sand Ford with water sloshing around at our feet. I was more ticked off that I had to quit fishing early that evening as there were several nice fish caught that day.

[BassMaster#1]

Yeah I say that on the semo group...sorry to hear that.  I have agreed upon insurance which I'm assuming will replace you for the amont you agree on?  Are you getting a new haul or getting it repaired?  Just curious on the process...bummer about the boat

[Seth]

I dropped it off at Cowtown so they can handle the damage estimate portion. Once they get that done, I will get ahold of my insurance company and then they will have somebody come verify the damage and give me a check for my loss. It should be enough to pretty well cover the cost of a new hull since the boat is new enough. I'd rather have a new hull that I can 100% trust versus buying it back and trying to have it fixed myself. Most people would rather buy it back, have it fixed and pocket some money. I just want to get back on the water and go fishing.

[Jim Spriggs]

Did anyone else notice that in the past few days the Sullivan Gage's CFS readings have been changed going back to sometime in late June or July--the flow as reported on the website has been decreased by about 100 cfs.  

 

It appears to have occurred after they physically measured the flow on the river last week. 

So, flow is lower than we thought, which explains why people have been ripping holes in hulls (I saw a post on the tri county jet forum, where someone else hit a rock in the riffle above Roaring Spring;I saw someone nail a big rock taking the center line in that riffle on Monday, when I was fishing above the riffle; and I hit bottom going to the far right side (right now, you have to be almost on the bank on the righ-hand side and under the overhanging tree to make it through, or you have to carefully thread the needle through the center of the riffle (taking the right hand side channel of the two choices if going down steam)

My understanding is that the gage measures height, and the flow is an estimate predicted by a statistical model.  I assume they use the actual measured flow taken every so often and correlate it with actual gage height (and, if done properly, they would adjust by seasons, etc).  That then provides an estimate of flow, based on a given gage height. 

So, this is a long way of saying I suspect they tweaked their model of flow based on new data   

Anyone know more about this than I.  Al Agnew?  

As for catching fish, I was out about four hours, and landed a bunch of smallish 10-12" fish in riffles and caught a few 13-15" fish in the slack water near current (especially off lay downs).  They were mainly hitting small soft plastics, though I did ok on crankBaits, too (thank you countdown rapala)

Later, 

[Jim Spriggs]

And, sorry about the hole in your boat.  That would suck, but jet boating is jet boating...

[Gavin]

That rock above Roaring Spring always has allot of aluminum on it. Mitch and me saw a guy rip a hole in his boat when were there a couple years ago. Mitch ran it fine though. Anything under 200cfs at Steelville is really low.

 

 

[Al Agnew]

Jim, I think you're right...the gauge measures river level, and flow is extrapolated from that.  They actually measure the flow periodically to make sure it corresponds to gauge height almost exactly.  I agree with Gavin, anything under 200 cfs on the Steelville gauge is getting very low, and I've always considered anything under 500 cfs on the Sullivan gauge to be low enough that some riffles will become very tricky to run between Onondaga and the mouth of the Bourbeuse.

[Seth]

I don't mind a skinny gravel riffle. It's the ones like above Roaring Springs with actual rocks that I'm leery of. Stanton has two of those spots within a few miles of the ramp. I've fished out of Onondaga and Campbell a few times, but I don't recall seeing any of those can openers in those areas, but maybe the water wasn't low enough either.

[Al Agnew]

There's a rocky one about halfway between Campbell Bridge and Onondaga.  Has to be fairly low to make it a problem, and there are a couple of lines you can run that miss the rocks, but if you make a mistake the rocks are unforgiving.