Giant Crawdads

[Invert Interest]

Bird Watcher.. i not once suggested releasing wild Australian Crawfish into the environment so that i may catch and eat it later. ive demonstrated by even posting here i am not that kind of person. the ONLY reason i posted here is the Giant Crawdad thread. If a ban on all crawfish is necessary for whats good and natural in Missouri, Fine. It has to be done. But if i cant, i want to know that the process that brought us to that point, the decision making process, can stand a reasonable bit of scrutiny by reasonable people. The Whys for a total ban on crawfish as given by the author of the Giant Crawdad thread, demanded a counterpoint, or a why a ban is unnecessary or at least premature regarding the Australian breeds. That is what America is all about. PROBLEM #1 this Australian creature can not survive a single life cycle in Missouri. We are too darn cold, it cant hibernate, burrow for protection, or even grow or reproduce outside climate control. PROBLEM #2 by the time its gills adjust to breathing dry air, should one ever escape, it will not be able to return to the water, it will drown.#3 its bold coloration and behavior leaves it no protection against natural crawfish predators, the Australian breeds cannot compete with natives. NOT SO with the wild boar or carp examples. nobody ever questioned the wild boars ability to live a life cycle, reproduce or breath here. and your examples given are fish and mammals, talking crawfish here. The biggest challenge for anyone attempting to raise these crawfish, would be wintering over, and keeping predators out of the "Lobster House" lol actually, as i described in another spot, an aviary type set up would be more like it. and dont be a jerk.

[Chief Grey Bear]

"Acid Rain". Now there's a media term I haven't heard in a long time...

How did we stop that.... or did we just quit hearing/talking about it?

OR are we simply calling it something else now? Is there a more PC word for it nowadays?

Remember those scrubbers that generating plants had to install, that the GOP claimed would kill the electric industry and throw everyone out of a job and cause a severe recession that would make the 30's look like a company picnic at the Mustang Ranch?

Well, turns out that not only did they actually build more generating plants, and thus create more jobs, they also cleaned up the emissions coming from those stacks as they said.

Ehhh, who knew??

[Quillback]

Remember those scrubbers that generating plants had to install, that the GOP claimed would kill the electric industry and throw everyone out of a job and cause a severe recession that would make the 30's look like a company picnic at the Mustang Ranch?

Well, turns out that not only did they actually build more generating plants, and thus create more jobs, they also cleaned up the emissions coming from those stacks as they said.

Ehhh, who knew??

"Ehh who knew" - You can thank GW Bush.

To help states meet the new air quality standards, President Bush announced the most aggressive Presidential initiative in American history to cut air emissions of nitrogen oxide (NOx), sulfur dioxide (SO2), and mercury from power plants. The Clear Skies Initiative was sent to the Congress by the President in 2002 and re-introduced in February 2003. President Bush's initiative would dramatically improve air quality by cutting power plants' emissions of SO2, NOX, and mercury, by approximately 70 percent, more than any other Presidential clean air initiative. Clear Skies legislation will reduce emissions further, faster, with more certainty and at less cost to American consumers than under current law. Through a market-based trading structure modeled after the proven, successful Acid Rain reduction program of the 1990 Clean Air Act amendments, Clear Skies will remove more pollution over the decade from 2010-2020 than current requirements of the Clean Air Act, reducing the number of premature deaths, hospital trips, and missed days of work and school due to respiratory problems. Clear Skies legislation will also reduce the acid rain affecting forests and lakes in the Northeast, reduce nitrogen loadings into the Chesapeake Bay and improve visibility nationwide.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Me thinks not.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Skies_Act_of_2003

[Quillback]

I think so, Democrats opposed this clean air legislation as it was proposed by a GOP president and for no other reason. Just curious Chief, are you capable of independent thought or can you only cut and paste links?

[Chief Grey Bear]

Can you read info in said links?

Or do you just cherry pic info to promote your view?

If you had read my link it clearly states info from both views. Unlike yours which would lead the ready to believe that said legislation was passed.

[Quillback]

I read it, as I said it did not pass because of Dem opposition. I do cherry pick info that is correct, and supports the truth.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Well the truth is there was a better plan.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Where did you say it didn't pass?

[Quillback]

Read your link to answer your question.