Rusty

My brother is in that area right now, and he fished 11 Mile today. He said they were the only ones on that stretch of the river. They had a great day using dry flies. He got all his information from a fly shop in Colorado Springs. Good luck, and have a great time.

You are right in that there are LOW water dams in nearly every town. Miami's low water dam is just that. Don't need a map, I can look at it when the water level is well below normal. With that being said, I haven't seen the dam in a very long time. Which is not impeding any fish to move up or down stream. This river has some of the best crappie, whites, and hybrid fishing around. The reason Tulsa is wanting to dam the area is to create a lake or several. An email that I received from ODWC stated that the main fish located in the Zink Lake are rough fish. Carp, buffalo and shad. Below Zink Lake you have the striped, whites, hybrids, crappie and so on. If they install the "low water dams", these species will no longer be able to make runs to the Zink dam, which is downtown Tulsa. The Tulsa mayor has stated they want to create a lake, which it is my understanding they will not be low water dams. In regards to the drownings/death traps, poor judgments on the part people. Sad, yes. Accidents do happen.

Elk River bridge NE of Grove, OK. on hwy 10.

Bernice bridge just before you go into Bernice, OK.

With what little experience I have, it looks like you were under lined on your first setup. Not enough line weight to load the rod, in turn it was causing you to over work your casting. Plus, your not used to throwing that heavy of a setup, Dan. Try using the 7 wt. line you used on the 8/9 wt. on your 6 wt. rod. Personally, I use a 7 wt. fast action rod lined with Rio WF7F "The Clouser". Then I use 2.5 - 3 ft. butt section of 17 lb. mono then a 3 ft. section of 8 lb. mono tippet. You are also using more senses at night than you would during the day. I would describe it as driving 8 hrs in a blizzard. You sit up straighter and strain a lot more than normal.

Clean up is underway. The issue could be solved if GRDA and the COE had at least one intelligent brain in the bunch. GRDA blames the COE and the COE blames the GRDA. It's a oneway street for sure.

If having the enforcement on the water keeps the idiots home, then so be it. I am glad they are there doing the job they are being paid to do. Maybe, after seven years of keeping my family off the water, I will be able to take them out again and enjoy what we like to do as a family. I really don't feel the need to explain to my kids why people are having sex in public, or why they are cussing us out as we paddle by. Or why they are fighting, or why they using the bathroom where everyone can see them. And then there is the drinking, and drugs. For Pete's sake, if they want to break the law, at least don't do it where everyone can see them doing it.

The Asian carp taught them.

Thats interesting. Three weeks ago wasn't there a family of two or three kids that drowned below Zink dam? The city is sure pushing for this to go through, but from what people are writing in the forums, only a few are for the tax increase. I have been in contact with ODWC via emails regarding there involvement in this matter, and I am waiting on some information they are using during the meetings. Hopefully, they will send it.

You had me for about 10 seconds. I didn't recognize the rip rap behind the man holding the hog. Then I finished reading the rest of the story.

Has anyone else been keeping tabs on this? What started out as one low water dam above the Zink Dam, has now turned into who all else can have one. I am afraid that the fishing will be ruined if this proposal passes. You can surely say good bye to the striper/hybrid/whites. http://tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?ar..._A19_spanc21171 Here is another article with some additional stories. http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=131870

To close to crazy Chavez for me.

Can the symbols be used if the words are appropriate?

You can keep it at my place.

What an honor to be banned from the most flexible forum, probably, on the web. Congratulation on the new web page Leonard. Best of luck to you.

The best approach to this is to contact the paper. It does work, believe me.

Sorry MrsDucky.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288904,00.html

How in the world can you get true #2 lumber in Alaska? Here in Miami, they sell #3 and some that could pass as #4 as #2 and smile all the way to the bank. Hey, can you send me some of the images of the lumber you used so I can show these guys something?

Yep, it's full.

You should have tried it. You wouldn't have been disappointed. *G*

Thanks for post.

I did ok.

That was me in the waders on Friday. As far as I know, I was the only one wading/catching in that section for 3 1/2 hours.

Glass houses are not user friendly. http://www.shootingmichaelmoore.com/trailer/index.htm