I meant no disrespect when i made that "keepers not big fish" comment. I started fishing seriously about 5 years ago and I study,eat,sleep and drink fishing. I guess im getting frustrated cuz it seems the the harder i push the more confused i get. I am trying to make up what these guys have known for lifetimes and trying to cram it in too fast. I appreciate the knowledge you guys share in here just getting a little frustrated that's all. If it sounded like i crapped on Champs answer that is not what i intended. My bad.