Devan S.

I bought 2 air stream 6 fters last night online. Told myself when/if they came back in stock I would buy them so that is what I did. For you guys that have the 7' rod how does it compare to the 6'6" rod? I originally bought a 6' and liked it a lot. Then I got the 6'6" and it just seems entirely to whippy to me. Never could find a 7' to hold.

I'm like you looked and looked and looked. I think for Crappie/panfish/trout they are a great value and need a handful more. Bass pro website shows they are in stock...online.

You mean a small, private, stocked lake managed strategically for Carp? Sounds like the only think holding you back is money....buy the land, fish, and feed and you have what you need. From a business standpoint if the demand is there then why hasn't anyone created a supply of this type of scenario? We do it with Bass and large game. So why do carp get passed over?

In my experience, Bluegills are generally scatter throughout the water column. If I was fishing for big ones I would definitely start at deeper depths.

This is the one that always made me wonder.....Do certain species take different amounts of DO or do the temperature differentials provide additional stress to Walleye vs. LM? Why isn't the bank littered with dead shad. They die if you look at them funny but never seem to show up during low DO? Assuming it rain at 2 inches per hour for 1 hour super hard rain that volume of water would be minuscule compared to the volume of water in the lake at that point. That might explain 5-10 fishing showing up.

https://www.outdoorlife.com/7-tips-for-shooting-more-fish-this-summer

Derail ENGAGE: http://www.iowadnr.gov/About-DNR/DNR-News-Releases/ArticleID/48/4-Essential-Tips-and-Tricks-for-Bowfishing In the Rough Bowfishing is only for taking “rough” fish. Iowa has a variety of rough fish found in lakes, rivers and ponds such as bigmouth buffalo, smallmouth buffalo, common carp, grass carp and primitive fish such as short nosed gar. These fish are generally very large (but are all sizes), still make for good eating, and you don’t have to worry about length and possession limits. They are usually visible from the top of the water. Be sure you can identify the fish before you shoot. Game fish (ie. largemouth bass, bluegill) cannot be taken by bow and arrow. The restriction exists because it is not possible to catch and release with bowfishing. Excluding game fish gives desirable fish a better chance at reaching maturity. Rough fish often stir up mud in the water, feed on vegetation, or feed on the same food as game fish, such as zooplankton and other invertebrates. Some rough fish, such as bighead and silver carp, are invasive species that damage the ecosystem. A full list of Iowa rough fish species is available in the 2015 fishing regulations booklet. Bring a Friend Big fish like carp may take more than one shot to bring in successfully, and they tend to travel in groups, especially at spawning time. Bring a friend with you to get a shot you missed, a neighboring fish, or just to help you haul in a big catch. You’ll have more fun and probably more success, which means fewer rough fish in Iowa waters. Carp are particularly easy targets at spawning time, as they tend to move to very shallow water and as much as half of their body may be exposed above the surface. Aim From Anywhere Bowfishing is great for those looking for flexibility in their fishing experience. You can shoot day or night from the shore, the shallows, a dock or a boat depending on your preference. However, there are areas in Iowa that do not allow after-hours fishing, and a few that don’t allow bowfishing at all (check locally for ordinances prohibiting bowfishing and in the 2015 fishing regulations booklet). Be sure to check the specific rules at any location you visit. Have Fun Bowfishing is a great outdoor activity that’s fast and easy to learn. That said, remember to have fun and not just try to get rid of every rough fish in an area. The same overfishing problems can befall any angler who takes too much from one spot: the fish will learn not to be there, and you’ll have to find a new fishing point. Even in the case of rough fish, don’t take more than you can use or dispose of responsibly. This is very important if you want to fish from a boat, because too many large fish can sink your ship faster than you’d think. Rough fish must be disposed properly and not left on the bank. Attend the free Iowa Outdoor Expo, September 26 and 27, to learn how to bowfish and discover other new and exciting ways to enjoy Iowa's outdoors. Bring the whole family to celebrate Iowa Hunting and Fishing Day.

This is what kills me the most. He has some legitimate logic going on but instead of giving us the green marble when we ask for the green marble he throws all of them at us at once and says "take that!" However he did start this train wreck and knew it would likely be just that. Good news is the secret followers filling up his inbox are having a good read.

I'm glad someone hit that one out of the park....This thread wasn't complete without it.

Yeah. They would have to leave a sign because they would never get caught. We're told their millions strong, fish all around us, but are hidden in plain sight and we never see them. Best camo money can buy. They don't buy it at Jonny world though because he promotes BF-ers.

Good...I was beginning to wonder what the state of affairs in the area are. Started to sound like Warsaw should be named Chicago south. I for sure don't want to risk my life or my families getting caught in the cross fire of the carp mafia street war.😂

So you mean to tell us because you were having a carp fishing fest, people showed up and poured gas in your well, dumped your pet fish out of your tanks, and called you in for using drugs as bait? All of which was un-instigated. Are carp seriously that coveted between bowfishermen and euro anglers? Is this like a bloods/crips gang war over fish? Last I checked these weren't Tuna and nobody was getting rich off catching them.

Can there be a micro division?

It would also show whose best in a very small geographical area. No salt water fishing included?

Is it as busy as the main portion of the lake.....No. However, remember there is a lot less surface area in the area from Shell Knob bridge up. 3-4 Boats zig-zagging pulling tubers, skiers, ect take up a lot of water it seems in an area like Arrow Point or Viney Creek and make it seem incredibly tight quartered.

This right here....Priorities. Coyotes are alot easier to call before every Tom, Dick, and Harry walks through the woods in deer season. It just doesn't feel the same hunting in 90 degree heat unless its over a fresh cut hay field.

#9669. I don't remember seeing them but sounds like were were close to the same areas often. We knew on day one we were pacing well enough to run a mid-low 60s time but the more we thought about it we were like why? Let's enjoy this a little bit.

We finished in 76:28 first time finishers in an aluminum canoe. First 50 miles were the hardest. We thought we didn't need seat backs in the canoe but brought them just in case. By Lexington our legs and hips were killing us. We were using our upper legs to compensate for the lack of back support. After we threw the seat backs on all was good. Did 100 miles each day and finished with a short 40 on day 4. After awhile you just get in a rhythm and you tick off the miles. We had no intentions of winning and our goal was to enjoy it. We thoroughly did and at most of the check points we were in good spirits. Spent 30+ hours on land throughout the race so we could cut a lot of time off our finish but enjoyment took precedent over the timing. Guys/Gals going sub 45 are insane. For those willing to finish in the 65-88 hours time frame its all about staying in the boat and how long can you be uncomfortable depending on your boat. I seriously cannot imagine the water level or weather being anymore perfect than it was.

I'm an avid life jacket wearer. I try to always wear a regular pfd when driving and use my inflatable when not driving as an added layer of protection. The video of the guys on the UF fishing team going through almost exactly what you did with a kill switch and life jacket on still makes me slow down a bit when running WOT.

Al, It't not that we mis-understand him. We literally want him to make a semi-reasonable comparison which you did. While illegal gigging is in fact illegal, Iagree with your assessment. I also would say that I could theoretically cover miles and acres of water with a boat gigging while I could literally cover yards or sq. yards while spearfishing reducing the likely hood that I would actually run across that larger fish. Couple that with the fact that one activity is generally done in a river or smaller river arms and the other limited to lakes. One could also claim that spearfishing targets larger fish completely due to the fact that nobody is going to shoot a questionable fish. One has to risk breaking the law if they only target fish exactly the length limit which I'm not going to do. So sure I'm not going to be shoot 18" fish I'm going to target 20"+ because I have to make a judgement call underwater, in limited viability, that will protect my legal status. Once again that argument wasn't ever made though. I would also agree the rod and reel fisherman cannot make the fish bite and the spear fisherman can shoot IF he see's the fish. I really think this is the biggest issue that rod and reel fisherman have with it. They feel they are at a disadvantage compared to the spear fisherman. Once again, not the original argument made. I would also say that one can improve their chances of catching those large Walleye, through other methods in specific locations, in specific times of the year. A significant number of those anglers that make the claim that spear fishing is un-ethical are also the same ones fishing those areas in the time of year that congregate those larger fish. When they drop those walleye into their live well their claim is often, it's a put and take fishery. See where I'm going here? You cant fish the pothole trying to catch trophy walleye using live bait with the intent of keeping that fish and then turn around and beat the drum that spear fishermen are decimating the population of walleye. Much like the tourney guy berating the guys eating the bass and then dumping out dead fish after the tournament. The end result is effectively the same. My opinion isn't that MoCarp is specifically doing this but a lot of people that agree with his assessment are. I would also agree its not genetics, that's why minimum length limits are set so we have an opportunity to pass on those genetics. Once again, the mass of the discussion was on walleye, striper, and panfish. One is a rapid growth, rapid breeding group of fish the other 2 are effectively put and take. The biologist claim there is essentially zero reproduction going on. Those world record class walleye that came from the fisheries being discussed here are likely the last remaining genetics from those river walleye. The fact is those fish are likely gone due to habitat degradation(dams being built) and rod and reel fisherman doing exactly what I have posted above. Fishing using methods that specifically target those fish when they congregate and are easier to harvest. Not because in the 80's and 90's spear fishing was wildly popular. Frankly if we never get back to those size fish, it also wont be because spear fishing alone wiped them out unless the popularity of spear fishing blows up exponentially. So based on that where do you draw the line on the regulations on what method is and isn't acceptable? It's largely done by the court of public opinion even though we would hope its at least to some degree factually based. That is where MoCarp comes in trying to alter the court of public opinion. Maybe that court likes the random comparison that don't seem to me to hold water, google shock and awe, stretch data but I don't. I want to know why he makes the links he makes and how he comes to his conclusions. That's exactly why I started demanding answers instead of letting him drive the conversation down every side road in the state but he didn't want to play along. Which lead me to the conclusion he either doesn't really want to explain his position(even though his post history says otherwise) or he is just stirring the pot. If nothing else I bumped up my post count and community reputation. After all that is what social media and public forums are all about right?

I fish something similar for bluegill this time of year on the points and run outs. I'm using small hooks and light weight. I try and space my hooks far apart but sometimes slack in the line ends up getting them tangled.

Taney is a great example. Allows for both harvest and restrictions but that is not what your championing for right? You don't want a compromise. I actually read your comments S-L-O-W-E-R this time and they still didn't connect the dots for me. Sorry. I swear I'm actually highly educated but reading comprehension isn't my strongest strength. What if Billethead said his opinion any fish not harvested by fly rod and artificial fly was not fair chase? Would you disagree with him? Would you ask him to clarify the reasoning why his opinion differs from yours? What if he continued to say because its fair chase were not all out here throwing jerkbaits/arigs on spinning/bait cast equipment. Were not all down here running them down with that dang whopper plopper. Instead what if he formulated an argument as such: I believe that the use a bait casting/spinning setup allows you to reach a significant distance farther that an fly rod thus increasing your effective area covered which puts the fish at a disadvantage. Those fish are no longer within a range that they know you are present and therefore they feel more comfortable with taking a chance at an artificial lure. I also believe that the artificial lures commonly used in both spinning fishing and bait casting setups contain multiple hooks and are fished at such a speed that the fish cannot make anything but a split second reaction to determine if the lure is a lure or actual prey. In fact this is evidenced by the number of fish that are caught with these lures in which they are not located in their mouth but attached to the side of their face. It is much fairer to use a slow artificial presentation in which you actually pit your skill working the lure against the fishes natural instincts to choose whether to bite and the lure is embedded into his jaw instead of his eyes. This is exactly what I want from you in the comparison of the spear fishing to spot lighting deer or shooting turkeys off the roost. I want to know exactly how and why your making that link.

I have fished a grand total of 3 days this year for Walleye(having a new born really cuts down your fishing days). All rod and reel as I have already admitted I don't spearfish. I managed one over 5#, 2 over 3#. Buddy I know did the same thing I did, 3-over 7# and multiple others 3+lbs. Wanna know how it was done or do you already have an idea? We were fishing within spitting range of 10 other people. Those people were certainly catching fish as well. Not a sole was spearfishing where we were and there were certainly a number of large walleye caught in that same couple hundred yard stretch over a month or so. Once again harvested with a rod and reel, from a put and take fishery. No issue right? We weren't spearfishing. Or do you now want to change the rules on that too and limit the time of year I can fish, locations I can fish, eliminate live bait? Where do you stop to accomplish your stated goal of a world class fishery?

Once again you dodge the question. Answer the question. I didn't ask what the court of public opinion was I asked what your opinion was. What in your mind separates to the two activities? You said the drop in wildlife populations due to those harvest methods cause the conservation efforts. Yet everyone here has the opinion that the spear fishing done in a recreational fashion by the vast minority within the guidelines set forth by the AGFC, has a statistically smaller impact that rod/reel fishing does. So please answer me this: What in your opinion makes them draw that conclusion? Are all these people that collectively spend hundreds of days on the water that clueless?

YAY! You kind of answered it. Your right unless someone tracks this you have absolutely no way of knowing. If AGFC came out and said we have data to show it causes no harm would you change your tune? The only caveat to my question was as compared to rod and reel fishermen. Of which, I believe we can safely establish that most of those that catch a legal walleye or legal striper or legal large bream,(assuming they are targeting them and not a by catch) are keeping them. That completely changes the narrative of the the question and would completely change most peoples answer to the question but likely wont change yours. Why? You're frankly to far into this to turn back now whether it does or doesn't change your answer. You exactly right it is fish hunting. Answer this question very clearly as well: What is the specific delineating feature that makes you okay with any form of legal hunting but not spear fishing?