I've hired many guides in my quest to learn how and where to fish , as I recall only 2 times did we limit out or caught more than a fish or two -- but , gess what it was worth the thousands that I have invested -- I hired these guides to LEARN to fish knowing that we may not catch a thing that perticular day -- a good guide is a teacher , pick their brain and duplicate them , that's what you pay for - because of that investment I have good sucess today