Greasy B

I don't have the ability to put I link on this message but this morning there is an article in the St louis post disgrace that makes wrench's argument. This bozo had no control of his weapon.

Now I'm thinking,,,,,,, a pair of chuck's would be a lot cheaper than a pair of Simms

Ted is the only one I buy new rods from. Straight talk and patients.

If you look close at the mountain dew bottles everyone in the trout parks carry around you'll notice a very un mountain dew head of foam.

I'm curious Dan, what are you replacing such a fine boat with?

Thanks for the responce, great boat, great price. I'm a pretty big boy who has out grown my solo 14. I got the line on a Kevlar penobscot 16. I figure it will work in all but dead low water, then I can use roylex. Thanks

I've been smashing down barbs on my dog walkers for along time now. I do lose a few on the jump But haven't had to do stream side surgery with my pocket knife since.

800 cfs is the volumn I recall, way way better than current min which is essentially what leaks through the generators and the dam, about 30-50 cfs. My understanding that a portion of the storage is being allocated, in drought conditions if the allocated water is gone the min flow goes back to the current status quo. If or when min flow happens it will change the river and fishery in was we can only imagine.

All great improvements for sure but if the bait still has the narrow gap between the blade and hook point is it for naught?

Oh yea I noticed it. The long gravel bar between Round House and Red Bud has flattened and pushed down stream filling in the pool below. A few years back there was lame attempt to impove habitat in the area. It was an endever that appeared to be designed by a clueless bureaucrat. Needless to say it had no effect.

As an angler I concider myself an optimist, but its hard to be optimistic about thIs. We've quite a few years of good water lately and some much improved fishing because of it, I don't count on it lasting. I'll never forget the horror of swimming in near bath water at Wildcat access back in the 90's.

A month ago I ran across something about another bureaucratic hurdle being overcome with regard to minimum flow implementation. Does anyone know what’s going on?

I recall a book. Fishless Days, Angling Nights by Sparse Grey Hackle. It’s a collection of fish stories set in the Catskill Mountains. If I recall correctly the ole boy in the stories hardly catches a fish through the whole book. Catching fish is not the point; it’s all the people the place that make the experience. A good book and approach to angling.

Yea the white is known for big browns, now. The new length limit helped a bunch but all we need is a couple of dry years, extended periods of low water and the bait fishing will take it's toll. It's hard to be optimistic about the future of the fishery without meaningful science based regulations.

Wrench, I like your suggestion. I used something similar a few years back.

As a person who has looked down the barrel of a loaded gun on a couple of occasions I want to remind everyone that our impression of violence is influenced by mass comunication. The fact is that we live in one of the most stable crime free countries in the world in perhaps the most stable and crime free time in the history of civilization. Just figured I little historic prospective was in order.

I agree with Gavin, I don't drive 5 hours to spend my leasure time in someone's back yard. NFOW is well down my list of destinations for just this reason. We are fortunate to have many stream miles still undeveloped but this won't last. As our stream corridors become more urban/suburban our children won't have the same opportunity to enjoy them as we have. That's a hell of a legacy to leave them.

Sounds like a great adventure. The Missouri from Gavins Point Dam to the shipping canal at Sioux City has haunted me. I would love to float this last section of un-channelized river. I don’t know if this is much help but since Feb 1st the river at Washington, Mo has risen about 5’. On the 1st the stage was 3.5 at this level most all the wing dikes were well above the water. The sand bars behind them were exposed and the channel was relatively narrow and well defined. The river is now at 8.5” the sand bars are mostly gone, some wing dikes are still above water and the channel is a little less defined. My descriptions are from looking longingly at the river twice a day as I cross it near St Charles, MO.

I couldn’t agree more. I have never had a bad encounter with a land owner in 30 years of Ozark gravel bar camping. I am truly grateful to all land owners who have not posted their gravel bars. I try to return their tolerance by leaving no trace. It almost goes without saying that I have had countless encounters with river idiots.

I plan on getting my CC soon. I'll probably carry sometimes but I'll do so with the knowledge that there will almost never be a situation where I'll be justified using it. I spent more than 10 years working in probably the roughest neighborhoods in north St louis. In that time I witnessed crime and violence beyond description. I have never seen a situation where another gun would have helped. Sorry for contributing to this off subject tangent.

Didn't Ted Turner already buy Montana?

Boy Eric, I thought I was a dreamer.

I’m looking for a used canoe for floating and fishing. An Old Town Penobscot 16, Mohawk Nova 16 or similar canoe would be ideal. A Discovery 169 or 158 would also be an option, even a used rental canoe as long as the lines are true and the price is right. I might consider swapping a used Mohawk Solo 14 as part of the deal. If anyone is interested or has any leads please let me know or PM me. Thanks,

I was with a buddy when he caught the hybrid of a life time out of ha ha tonka spring in December. I never been up the river from there but I have heard stories.....

Great trip, amazing river. My best brown in several years came from the same area last month.