fishinwrench

I'm with ya, JoeD. Most of these C&C cowpokes just pack their cute little 9's just to feel cool. If they ever had to truly depend on it to save their butt they'd most likely get shaken and botch the job., making a bad situation even worse. Everytime I hear someone say "I'm not worried about such-n-such cuz I have a C&C permit", I wanna drag them outside by their earlobe and kick them in the neck Billy Jack style. Especially the ones that blow all that ethical rhetoric about..."I'm packing....but I hope I never have to use it". Yeah, me too....just makes you weigh more for whoever has to carry you out of the woods. LOL

That's a winner, good move on the hook style.

Hook: rear- Mustad 3366 #4 (clipped) front- Mustad 3366 #2 Tail: small tuft of marabou. Body: Angel hair spun in a dubbing loop (Sparkleminnow style). Eyes: ya know...whatever. A wet one... I'm likin' this thing. I think the Whites are gonna destroy it

Nice! I have a complete rabbit hide dyed in that exact same color. Lemme know if it produces like it looks like it will, I'll gladly share.

Smallmouth are pretty scarce below Tunnel dam. It does get a good run of Whites/Hybrids and walleye after a gully washer any time of the year (not just Spring). Locating decent access is a DIY project. I would warn against leaving a pretty vehicle at the Edith whistle bridge, I had an episode there several years ago and I doubt that much has cleaned up around there since.

Winter catfishing is really taking off here on LO, I dont participate in it myself (yet) but the guys that do have had a great Winter so far, and from what I understand they are being caught way shallower than I woulda thought. It's all about learning the fish, paying your dues, and knowing what you're doing. Cats bite all year long just like every other fish.

Beautiful, Man. Way ta go!

Woah, that's one deep conspiracy theory ya got going on there. I love it!

I did, and I got skunked. So now you all must pay.

No noise, they were up in passenger jet territory, 30,000ft. or so. I know it looks closer than that but the actual planes were mere specks, you couldn't hear them at all.

Sad. Cougars, bobcats, and tan or yellow dogs would soon be extinct

They'll probably classify it something really sinister sounding , like "Endangering a protected riverway", or "Attempting to transport destructive material", class B felony. LOL Seriously though, An aquaintance of mine was run through the ringer bigtime, they had been watching him park next to a bridge and cross a field and return to his van by wading back up the creek. They plotted a full scale swat type sting out in the woods because they just knew he was either tending some weed or cooking meth. They never dreamed that he was merely into hunting arrowheads and I suppose in an attempt to cover up their embarrassment they charged him with "Defacing/disturbing an archeological site....and he actually got some jail time and 2 years of probation, even though there was no known documentation classifying the area as an archeological site, and the owner of the property couldn't be located. What does this have to do with the fine for wearing felt? I dunno, I guess just that they could potentially call it anything that "works" in the courtroom. I bet you could ask 100 Prosecutors across the state if they can tell you the extent of punishment for wearing felt boots in a trout stream, and 99 of them will look at you like you just farted and say.... "Huh?"

4 of them ?

I, for one, was kinda enjoying the sunshine thank you very much Who knew a groundhog had so much pull?

Chris, I always "pile" my whip finish turns one atop the other (4-5 turns). Seems that if I let it walk across the head the loops slide and loosen. I do the deed directly behind the eye loop so it is locked in a trough and can't "walk loose". I only use cement on flys with big thread heads (clousers, decievers, ect) and Sally Hansen hard as nails is as good as anything else for my purposes, it's thin enough to soak in and builds up nice and clear.

I think you're right, and it cracked me up when you said..." and I don't care anymore"... cuz that's exactly the attitude I get, until I see someone posting successful carp reports. Gives me an inferiority complex and makes me wanna try again. If they are Buffalo, and Buffalo are typically that way then that explains it. Thank You, you just saved my ego. The location of them is in the back end flats of the bigger Lake O tributary arms, and further up the creeks in silty backwater sloughs. They are insanely thick all through the warm months rooting and tailing in textbook fashion, but absolutely will not take a fly in their mouth. I've even tried rubbing peanut butter on my fly and all sorts of "inside tricks"....NADA. So yeah, I bet that thr majority of my "carp" are buffalo.... makes sense and I guess I figured they were closely enough related that I never differentiated between the species in my mind. Excellent info and very helpful, Thanks again.

No, I just took a potentially fatal hit in the checkbook. So now everytime I pick up a pen my arm goes numb and my knees buckle.

Thanks man, He's doing excellent, back to his old tricks and he only acts like it bothers him when a weather front is moving in. It's weird how that effects muscles and joints, but it does, I have a knee and shoulder that do the same thing.

Essox, I think it's about time you put on a little carp forum seminar for us here. How about a little Q & A for a guy (me) that knows where some huge carp hang out.... but can not get them to bite a fly for nuthin. I can get a cast in their face good enough to snag them in the head routinely but getting one to eat the fly on purpose has totally eluded me so far. What degree of water turbidity seems to make it happen best? Do you like a long leader (10ft. or more)? Any other rigging tips that matter? How about the 3 most important aspects that lead to getting a fly in a carps mouth? They are hands down the hardest fish to consistently catch on fly gear.....and I wanna learn it

That's awesome! What a beast. And what a crock of "DUNG" that they insisted on running all those tests in order to certify the weight and length. That's just wrong. Missouri doesn't do that, do they?

That's no joke, Ron. I mean look at this list of specialized permits.... http://mdc.mo.gov/permits

The LN is in both the old Oz H. book and the recent MDC paddlers guide.

I guess my main point, and position is; If Chief is charged with trespassing (whether the sentance is suspended with an agreement or he is fined) then LAW for that section of stream is most definately being made. From that point on anyone calling the sheriff because of someone on thier gravel bar, or wading the stream adjacant to private property in that county is going to result in a trespassing charge. And neighboring counties will most likely follow suit. So to the ones who care and enjoy spending time on Shoal cr. it is a pretty big deal, whether anyone else considers it "making law" or not.

It'll be interesting to see the official answer to this. My guess is that it's because prosecutors can ignore the actual laws....but judges can't .

Hoglaw, how much preparation would his lawyer have to do? All he should have to do is ask the prosecutor to show him the law that indicates that Chief had actually acted against it. Do you believe the prosecutor can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Chief indeed broke the law? It appears that you do....and that interests me. I'm no lawyer, don't even play one online, but I can't see this even making it to a preliminary hearing. So how can he justify a 1500.00 retainer? That's nothing more than a number to scare (lead) him in a desired direction, as I see it. And I'm willing to bet there are a good number of silent folk reading this that agree. What blows my mind about this whole "gray area" BS is that while there may not be a law that says we CAN access said stream, there is equally no law that says we CAN'T. True or False? I'm curious as to why the "gray" is always darker on the defendants side of tbe scales.