fishinwrench

Aw hell, you can't offend us, vent on here and spare the family. LOL So, you think there's 5000 in there ? I bet the Smallies are pissed. How would you like for a fleet of greyhounds to pull into your neighborhood and unload 5000 hungry and disoriented Germans with poor manners...and then just drive off ? LMAO

I'll miss a few of them, but only because of the price. Mustad's barbs have always been a little excessive IMO Here's a comparison link for TMC http://www.tiemco.co.jp/english/products/f...cflyhooks_e.pdf Pricier, but they offer all the same designs...but better steel,sharper and a nicer barb.

Replacing the propshaft requires a complete reseal,relube job and shimming, plus the work to the skeg, prop and paint....taking all parts and labor into consideration you could be (depending on make, model, and H.P.) real close to the cost of a replacement lower unit (with warranty). Since the lower unit will need to be removed anyway, it is as good a time as any to add a fresh water pump kit. If I can help with a second quote let me know. simsmarine@sbcglobal.net

I've never been 100% clear on why trout don't (or supposably "can't") reproduce sucessfully in more of Missouri's rivers. Is it the temperature/climate thing, or what exactly ? I used to put a lot of stock into the whole wild trout / stocked trout thing, but as long as they have all thier fins and have been in the river long enough to know their way around and be weened off hatchery food, I find the same degree of sport involved. Wild fish are said to be prettier...and I've seen some pretty bleached out, beat up, and dull looking hatchery fish in Minnesota and in Georgia, but our hatchery's put out some pretty nice looking fish I think. Wild fish are also said to be harder to catch and fight harder than a equally sized hatchery bred trout....but I haven't noticed that. I still get skunked occaisionally and I get my tippet broke plenty often enough to suit me, in the put and take rivers. What makes catching a wild fish born of wild parents, so much more cool ?

Hard to say without seeing it, BUT... Put a wrench on the lower unit bolts, loosen and re-tighten each one of them to make sure it didn't partially shear off one of them. Check for a bent propshaft. Impact like that can cause gear failure later on, especially if it was in gear when the impact occured (lots of people put the engine in gear when trailering so the prop doesn't spin while going down the road). If the propshaft is damaged (bent) you can request a magnaflux test on the gears. Don't let the insurance companys off the hook until you are perfectly satisfied that all is well. No skeg or gearcase housing damage ?

Well Shut My Mouth ! ....Here's the latest word on the stocking of Browns, per Weaver's: {quote} The annual stocking of brown trout in the Niangua River took place on December 18 & 19, 2008. Five thousand browns were stocked, with an average length of 11½". Individual fish varied from 9" to 13" in length. The fish were stocked at 6 locations between Niangua River Oasis (NRO) and Ho-Humm Campground. {un-quote} 5000 Browns released along that 5 mile stretch of river the day before I last floated it in the toon. And I thought I had really figured something out that day ....LMAO What a bubble-buster I gotta challenge those numbers though, the most I've ever known them to drop in one place is 500, 500x6=3000 Still a very good thing, but lets keep it real. Knowing their movements after release(90+ percent immediatly head upstream) the fishing at NRO should be amazing. Probably why our buddy Cricket got all quiet

I second that...Me either. I have always chosen to go elsewhere because I've always heard/read that it has to be fished from a boat, the shuttles are long, and I have to pass over lots of good familiar water on my way there. Lame excuse I know, especially since I have one of every type of boat there is, short of an ocean liner and a scarrab. Someday......

Kyle, Nice website, especially enjoyed Madison Brown. Very cool !

Circle hooks would probably be more apt to roll off the sides and gill plates, so you'd either get a jaw stabbed or miss them altogether. Dunno, just a thought.

To each their own, but to me it's snagging...period. Like I was saying in the other (bead pegging) thread, I tried it in Bennett and on the Niangua and I did catch fish. Some in the mouth, some just outside the mouth, a few got stuck either on the side or on top of the back and shook off, and one got it in the eye. That's when I decided I didn't like it. But I'll confess that I was using a TMC 100 #12 and I was not using a circle hook....But Still I just don't like the concept. I do "ok" the ol'fashioned way and if I ever caught the fish of a lifetime using a pegged type rig (or even a dropper rig) it would never really feel...right...and I'm not sure I could be very proud of it. But that is just my personal view FWIW.

The "suspending Jerkbait" bite along south facing creek channel banks on any lake containing shad,....starting NOW...until late March. The "back end flats" Rattle Trap/Spinnerbait bite as soon as nightime water temps remain in the upper 40's. (lake Ozark and Truman) The pre-spawn "floating lizard" (cloudy days) or "Wiggle Wart"(sunny days) bite beginning mid-late April anywhere rocky banks change to gravel. (Lake Ozark) Late April-early June is Slab Crappie time, off colored water with shallow brush or wood cover. (Lake Ozark, Truman and Pomme) Once the Crappies are post-spawn get off the lakes and back to the rivers for Smallies, or stay on the lakes for some of the best Topwater "spook" action around secondary points. (Lake Ozark)

DUCT TAPE ??? Ouch !

Yep, like I said, my gut feeling was as such. The Browns I caught before Thanksgiving I could tell had been in the river awhile, each fish (brown) was on his own separate little niche of river. They were agressive and willing to chase when I found one...but there was no fishing one little area and catching 4-5 like you can do after a recent stocking. I'd like to take the toon and cover some water on a day thats not so windy.

Naw it's not "just you", it was fishing good before Thanksgiving but there are certain little spots where a few of the most recent stockers always hang out, I can usually always count on getting bit in those spots no matter how tough it is elsewhere in the river... but the fish are simply not there. When I drove through the park I saw that they put a sign up at the crapper by the Holland dam, saying that they were closing off half the restrooms..as a "budget cut" LOL I wonder when doing these "budget cuts" if they cut the cleaning crews hours right away, or skimp on the river stockings first ? I have nothing to go by other than a gut feeling, but I don't think they put any Browns in the river this Fall, at all. I dunno, but after the butt-kickin' I've taken the last 2 times in that stretch by the access...I'll be concentrating my efforts elsewhere for awhile.

Saturday it was a bit chalky-green (visability about 3ft.) but it's clearing up pretty fast.

I read something awhile back that I had never considered, but feel it's worth passing on: Many eggs from the nest drift and settle downstream from the visable redd...so if you wade an area with redd(s) try to walk UPSTREAM of the nest.

The wind made me its b!tc#, all day today Fished all the holes and riffles from Sand Spring down to 3rd island, tried every trick I know, and only had 4 noticable bites all day. Managed to get one little 12" rainbow hooked and landed. Super-tough day for me.

Lake level is 657.5 as of Friday, with low or no generation expected through the weekend. Not high and muddy at all, Shawnee bend area water condition is good. Tear'em up ! The number for the Bagnell dam lake level recording is 573-365-9205 (for future use).

Quote from LSL: "According to figures released this week by AmerenUE, 281 volunteers removed 937 cubic yards (about 72 tons) of material setting a record for the largest amount of debris ever brought in during a fall cleanup". And that's just the stuff that won't sink. LOL Crazy! I heard something awhile back that made me chuckle (but only because I don't own lakefront property anymore). It seems Ameren has the authority to drop the lake level 22 feet, making all lakefront property "second tier". And reclaiming/reselling the NEW lakefront property. Rumor was they actually considered doing that. Wouldn't that cause an equity stir ? LOL

Yeah I bet. I was working on a boat at Millstone several years back and a guy was there diving around the docks looking for goodies. He had found an expensive watch and a box of Snap-on tools the day before, he said the bottom was covered with old batterys, lawn chairs, outboard cowlings, TV antennas and everything you could imagine.

On the wall of the old Camdenton courthouse there are some old pictures taken during the clearing of the land before impoundment, a couple of them were photos of some rough lookin' old dudes (probably loggers on a day off) holding stringers of bass, at least half of them you can tell are Smallies, the writing below the pictures say they were taken on "Buffalo cr. near Zora". I'm talkin' stringers of 20-30 fish..... all NICE ones ! There were also some photos of the confluence of the big and little Niangua rivers, it was either a popular ford or a ferry crossing back then and the river looked really awesome...even in black and white. It would be amazing to see what lies on the floor of this lake, wouldn't it ?

Wish I could get away, looks like she's a foot or so high....'bout perfect ! I'm hoping that the fast water washed all that gravel out of the riffles at the access. Give us a report when you get back. Good luck

Oh it would be cool to see the plug pulled on this pond. Just think of the MILES of smallmouth rivers it would reopen...Gravois cr., Mill cr., Soap cr. the Glaize, the Buffalo's, Cole Camp, the Niangua's...... I hope I live to see it.

I was looking over the zippered waders and the zippers don't go down far enough. I mean, I don't know how well you guys are equipped....but I'm pretty sure I'd still have to drop the shoulder straps and pull them down to take a leak. Reminds me of that story about the old farmer that just reached in and pulled out the side of his overalls..... We are derailing at a tremendous rate...aren't we

a "REAL" flyfisherman wouldn't walk all the way to the porta-john.....he'd fish 'til he couldn't see straight anymore, wade to the bank, toss his rod gently in the weeds and frantically shuck his vest, rip off the wading belt and drop the waders to his knees .... streamside. After the big exhale he then checks to be sure the coast is clear. That guy was obviously a poser...