Was out this afternoon practicing again, started with about 20' out then increased it to 25' was doing a fairly good, so I went to 27.5' still not doing to bad. When I felt this looked pretty good I went to the full 30' was able to keep it in the air with the loop not looking to bad but then it began to decenacrate so I would stop go back to 25' & start over.
During this I paid close attention to my wrist so it didn't break over on the back cast. I counted 1, 2 on both the front cast & back. Was going to video it so I could look later and see if it looked like I thought at the time but it was getting late and daylight was disappearing fast.
Yes Al all your suggestions as well as the others has helped a ton. Also have the book "Troubleshooting the Cast" by Ed Jaworwski which I'm hoping as well.
Thanks everyone.......