I fished yesterday amd thought about you Dutch. I was bottom bouncing on the flat when I caught about a 9 or 10 inch drum. Got it about 3 ft from lifting it into the boat, when all I saw was a mouth coming up from below. And a large mouth engulfed the drum and took off. Ripping drag. I panicked and jerked it out of his mouth. It had to be 7 or 8 lbs at least.