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They turn up on the upper end on occasion, but I don't know if the come from AR or Taney. I caught a decent one in Beaver creek early in the no white season.

It can be a bad sign, if it's a result of high metabolism from the temps and their affinity to running water could be a sign the O2 is low. Hopefully the springs will keep pumping until we get some relief.

They make one that is very close and is cheaper. This one is probably just as good for a fly bag. The one TSmith has is high quality because it's actually aimed at soldiers of fortune and LEO's, but you pay for it. http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Multi-functional-Tactical-Messenger-Bag/dp/B002TUSSY4/ref=pd_sbs_sg_1 I have this one and it's well made, but I haven't carried it yet. It also has a place for a holster, if that's in your equipment.

Yeah the forecast is for no real change.

Putting water it will certainly help your tomatoes. A lot of critters will use them as a water source, especially squirrels. Nothing more aggravating then having half your ripe tomatoes have a bite out of them.

BS has changed as you said and one of the bigger changes is in shoreline structure. There is neither good cover for nests or fingerlings and the fact is simply that the shad are a competitor to a species that struggles when the lake remains normal. After last years high water small bass are everywhere in the upper section, and probably all over the lake. If the need is for more bass I suspect getting the COE to hold the lake 5' high every spring during the bass spawn would increase all species. Stripers would mean a lot of dollars for the upper lake and there is no evidence it would hurt any other species, except oversized shad. They put them in Texoma in the 70's and the bass fishing never missed a beat until the environmental changes had them add smallmouth.

I'm partial to Lowe, but in any case buy the boat from a dealer close to the plant. Shipping a boat is expensive.

Same for any live bait. What can be better than bait the fish recognize? Minnows are easy to trap.

I think we found out long ago that it;s not smart to mess with mother nature. If fishermen want crawdads they should get them from the waters they fish.

I don't dispute that OB, but the way the Ag dept agencies seem incapable of a long term plan that can be counted on. You don't believe that the forest could have been managed better to negate some of the effects? Al is right about old forest being very fire resistant, I've seen the result on several occasions. I'm not familiar with the east side of the Rockies, but the FS and BLM have complete control over the forest and if they've done everything right we must assume the forest are doomed.

And along I-40 in OK, the Tehachapi mountains in CA., northern CO, etc. I think mass production would bring solar down considerably, they aren't hard to build and there's no reason they can be built on an assembly line. The biggest cost should be the electronics, the installation and tying it in to the existing system. The biggest problem is opposition from too many who feel they won't get a share of the pie to satisfy them. There are too many simple but effective solutions that have been floating around for decades to believe there is any authority who really cares beyond the pocket.

I think Barlows is hard to beat, but take a look at Zeiners in Wichita. They have a web site.

You failed to mention Justin that the government makes no money, it only takes it. My compliant is that it, I think obviously, does a poor job of getting the most bang for the buck. We're not exactly moving all that fast at solving problems that were recognized 30 years ago and I doubt anyone has a real idea of how much money has been thrown at it. Separating huge corporations from the government or either political party is impossible. If we had the proper restraints on the legislatures the attraction wouldn't be so strong. They'll drop oil anytime the need to influence government. The pipeline is a good example, they don't want it to be an issue because the oil companies don't want it.

I have to disagree that you can't fish lies. You can find a lot of good lies by watching the current and most of our trout gravitate to shallow faster currents. If the water flow is disrupted there's a potential lie there. Trout react differently, normally, when in deep water compared to a shallow flow. While deep runs work out well for people with a lot of experience on a river, like Brian and Justin on the NFOW, the average person will do better to fish what he can evaluate by sight. You won't go fishless with an indicator and just letting it drift, but I much prefer to hunt them down in the pockets they lie in. If you're drifting a hot spot the drift doesn't need to be so long that everything gets bent out of shape.

One big advantage of the perfection loop that Dam mentioned is that if you loop to loop between tippet and leader you preserve the length of the leader. As your tippet dwindles from re-tying it's easy to replace or change size as needed. I also agree, don't make it complicated, the only things really important are getting the right nymph very close to the fish without alarming them. The only time a perfect turnover is important is in dry fly fishing. When nymph fishing its much lass a worry and you have lots of time to perfect it.

I know some curl at the notion that the government was less than professional in the mix. The real problem was just that, a lack of professionalism. They would jump from one policy to the next with little or no warning. Al you're right that old growth and stands that had matured were being phased out, as they should have been. They never should have been cut in the first place, but they weren't stolen, they were sold by the FS. Most mills that were capable of working old growth were deteriorating because the owners knew it would end, but many turned there efforts and capital into small log mills. The reason being they were led to believe that much of the second growth would be thinned from the public forest to avoid another Yellowstone, plus there was bug killed trees to salvage, or so they thought. I think the bitterness came from the fact that the rug was pulled from them without a good scientific reason, but more for political reasons. Ironically at the time contracts with foreign companies for timber in Alaska were reportedly still in place. To add insult to injury most of those trees that were small undergrowth would produce lumber for export. I don't know what the situation is in the NW now, but you can't use a flyover to judge what is happening in public forests because so much of the area is private tree farms, especially west of the Cascades. OB, that's what they did in Yellowstone and we know how that turned out. I don't think you have thought the market situation out. I'm not defending industry, I'm once again trying to point out that if you allow the government to run things unchecked you more than likely to get chaos and a poor return on your money. At least the profit in public corporations drifts back to individuals across the spectrum. If the environment needs help fast, put a profit on it, if not then let the government stumble along.

I think one of the hardest things for trout fishermen to learn is that trout don't lie in direct current, but as close as they can get. Even a small rock can give just enough break from the current for them to use as an ambush point. you have to fish the breaks, especially the small ones.

I was at the Outlet park, which is immediately below the Pomme dam and people were doing pretty well on good sized channels around wood. I'll bet if a person did that float and fished all the laydowns hard he could do real well on channels. Here's what the river access info says. Lower Pomme de Terre River 0.0 Put in at campsite at west side of river at base of the dam. 4.0 County Road 273 Bridge. No access. 6.9 Hermitage Access at Hwy. 254 Bridge. 8.6 Hwy. 54 Bridge. No access. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' public land on both sides of river ftom here to lake. 13.6 Cross Timbers public use area access. Off Hwy. U on County Road 281. 18.6 Ford, last access above Truman Lake. OffHwy. Y and County Road 217. Take un maintained road to the east. 20.0 Harry S. Truman Reservoir may back up to here. 22.0 Sapp Landing Access, boat ramp and parking lot on County Road 64. Last access above reservoir.

I think you helped open that door. It's hard to talk about forest fires without mentioning forests. Your link seems concerned with all timber harvested. A great deal of the total comes from private holdings and includes a lot of softwoods for paper and such. I think the cut back in timber sales on public land by the FS and BLM is still going on. The government has been all over the wall in the industry, ask the thousands who lost out in the late 90's when the industry in the NW was squashed by the government. It started with the spotted owl and ended with a virtual shutdown. The FS changed the rules constantly, so much so you had to wonder if anyone was really in charge. It didn't help when people were seen in civilian clothes pulling up to the grocery store in a green FS vehicles either. I guess you had to have been there to appreciate it.

Your place is a good example of what could be accomplished, with some help. I can't tell exactly how much electrical energy is lost getting power to you, but it would add up. With plenty of room and buildings you could probably approach 90% or better in clean renewable energy. The downside is the cost and the fact that you obviously can't likely do it fast enough on your own. If the government just concentrated on the easy installations like yours, that require erratic usage and are long way from the source of generation I think the tax payer would actually get a bang for the buck.

I don't know how many times this year we have had a good looking storm move towards this area, Taney county, and then just dissipate. The radar this morning showed a good storm about to move into our area and then it simply fell apart. This whole spring has seen one storm after another go north of us, some south and others fall apart when it seems they can't miss. I think Ozark, Howell, etc are in the same boat. My gauge has shown about 1/2" of rain since the end of April.

I think ethanol may be headed for some rough going. If this weather pattern turns into a real drought, and it's certainly headed that way, the water used and the fact that most are geared up to only use corn may become a real problem.

Well shoot, we thought you were talking about using a boat. You don't need a ramp to jump in.

I thought I heard they drained, filled and built houses there? Dinosaur you should do a search on the MDC Atlas. Do an advanced search in the KC district and pick "fishing ponds and lakes". I know there are several in your area.

Installation costs are high, but ,IMO, that would be a better place to put what the feds consider their money. Not only does the home owner gets involved, he adds value to his property, saves on his electric bill, and recoups some of his taxes in a positive way. The savings in transmission losses would in itself be worthy. That has to be a better option than the roughly 750 billion wasted on 2 companies. I don't follow what you mean about the net gain of solar panels? As far as the environment goes the only negative would seem to be in the placement of them on solar farms. They're even less attractive than windmills in that setting. There's a big push to get everyone into an electric car, which is ahead of the game and not really much of a gain, if any, as far as CO2 emissions and too expensive for the majority of people int this country. A solar panel can be built at home for $100-$150, so it's hard to see why mass production wouldn't make them very reasonable. Installation doesn't seem to be a deal breaker, I would estimate 2-3K$ and if I even cut my bill in half I would recoup in less than 4 years a $7000 cost.