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And we know this how? 100 years isn't even a drop in time. How do they pick a particular hundred year period, 10K years ago? They're still constantly reviving information on humans and dinosaurs, but we know temperature trends?

I wonder if they were even able to gauge the river? I don't know how deep they anticipate when setting up a gauge, but it would be interesting no if that one had enough capacity..

My first inclination would be that the fish smell masked the human scent, and when it didn't the cat high tailed it out of there thankful he survived his mistake. I suppose the pack could have also masked the silhouette of the man.

We can hardly use Marc Morano,, unless we want to keep deflecting the debate to use commentators as the source of facts. Marc Morano is no more a scientist than Keith Olberman is a journalist. I was interested in the quotes by real scientist, refuted to be 650 overall. Many want to point out the oil and gas industry, which is weak when a little thought is put into it, so using that argument where does the leading university in the UN's opinion come out? Am I the only one that wonders why a fairly new university would outshine thousands of established research colleges? Could it be that when entering an established community and needing to break into the life giving grant market that they had to come up with something off the charts? Is that not just as reasonable an argument as that the oil and gas industry wants to continue with petroleum based energy? Flytier57, if you think I'm ignorant for not falling in step to one drummer, maybe you should share where you get your information. I haven't seen any links from you, only "me too" so far. I need a lot more real proof, something that is probably impossible, to convince me that my children and especially my grandchildren should fall back into harder times because of a theory that is full of holes. While there is no doubt we are entering a warmer phase in our climate, to argue that it is man made in spite of numerous periods in the past occurring without mans help is shaky at best. No doubt we should move toward sustainable, cleaner energy, but I don't think we needed to do it at the expense of our way of life. This country has lost more jobs over environmental concerns then can ever be recouped in many generations. We need balance between life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and improving the environment. I'm always suspicious when someone with no dog in the hunt tells me and my family to sacrifice.

I assume they didn't and in fact probably were thinking in terms of how much colder the earth, actually Europe, was going to get. Gabriel Fahrenheit invented the first accurate thermometer in 1714 and that was during a period of unusual cold. Here's one tidbit of food for thought, sans liberal or conservative propaganda as an automatic dismissal. While it does come from a political source, the more important point is the credentials of the scientist involved. Senate report

The smaller fish like chubs definitely come when "called".

Eric, OB, I've never said I didn't believe the planet isn't warming. It has been doing so for millions of years, that we know, what we don't know is the length of thousands of cycles or the severity. In our short recorded history we've had an extreme of cold, The Little Ice Age, and many scientist have theorized it was caused by a rapid global warming that shut down the Atlantic Conveyor. It doesn't sound like the university needed Rush's help or Sean's. The UK Telegraph.

Are those the scientist from East Anglia? The ones that lost a bunch of data and replaced it with made up data?

Lost a post.:rolleyes: I would have never thought the White could have reached the edges of Riley's Station, impossible. I've seen pictures where it was lapping at the edges of it. The river at normal must be 40 or 50 feet lower that the Station. I've often wondered how far it backed up the Buffalo there, which is across the river.

Yeah but what happened a hundred years before that daddyo, oops, never mind, that was the Mini Ice Age.

More than the lower Buffalo??????

I can't think of anything that's 20 foot deep now, but I haven't hit the whole river in a while. Most of the good holes I know of have been reduced to about half the depth.

While these aren't cheap, they do great job of cold smoking for cheese, bacon, or fish. AMAZE N SMOKER

Anyone who is familiar with Bennett can see the results of loving a stream to death. As the area and the park became more and more developed, the stream became less and less of a stream. The term "hole" that describes many deeper areas of the stream were actually coined when they were holes. The severity of floods has also increased because of development.

While my experience is far from scientific, when we had cow elk tags we hunted late and always in snow. We also always saw lion tracks in the area we hunted and there seem to be a pair in one particular area, two different tracks. The only time I saw lion tracks following elk tracks was when a cow was alone with a calf. The two areas where we consistently saw tracks were also areas where large numbers of deer wintered.

Morton salt and Prague powder (now Insta Cure #1 ) are not the same. Insta Cure is a Sodium Nitrite cure, while Mortons is nitrite and nitrate. When the cancer question came up concerning cures, researchers thought that nitrate was most likely the cure that was the culprit, given the fact that our bodies produce nitrate which is also common in nature.

I have a problem buying in to a scenario where 12 armed people feel threatened by a cat and only one shoots. How did they arrive at who would shoot? Was the shooter the only one who felt threatened? !00 hunters after coyotes would sound like a drive with stationary hunters at locations. If that's true then one would assume the cat was trying to sneak away from the threat to itself and would be coming at anyone concealed. It still has no truthful ring to it. Absolutely none of the story fits the facts known about the cats. If you do a little research on lion attacks in the US and Canada, 2 attacks within a few months here either means an especially aggressive bunch of cats are coming in or something isn't quite right in the stories. I know that in the 13 years that I lived in Oregon, which has a resident population all over the state numbering in the thousands, confrontations were rare, very rare.

It seems to be more theory then fact that it really harms the fishery. While it's true that the fry are mostly decimated, bass in Missouri lakes don't seem to be in any danger. Remember that when the male leaves he take a shot the fry.

You can buy daily permits, as mentioned, but you will also need a trout permit for another $7, one time. If you hit one of the parks after March 1st you won't need the permit.

Cricket they were in LOZ when I was a kid, so you know that they've been there awhile.

JD self defense is nonsense, they were armed and I challenge you to come up with any reasonable number of lion attacks to support a belief that they attack humans. Many of the western states have thousands of them and attacks are very few and far between. You don't believe they called it to them? You don't believe they could have scared it in the the next county with a shot in the ground? Next thing we know it will be open season on everything, "I thought it was rabid".

What a crock! They are concealed, calling coyotes, and a lion comes to the call, and armed to the teeth they're scared, good story.

I think #6 is a given. #5 depends on water temperature and O2 content. #4 can harm the numbers, but it shouldn't affect an individual fish for that reason alone. #3 takes you back to #6, it all depends. I don't see a whole lot of difference between single hooks and I think again, a fish can be mishandled with or without a barbless. #2, no more than lures in my opinion. #1, use circle hooks.

Maybe he did some silhouette shooting with the 35 Rem.?

If I'm not mistaken, Oklahoma stocked lake smallies when they started stocking lakes. Many of the lakes that now produce big smallies didn't have smallies in them until they aged and the department decided smallies would fit. It's becoming harder and harder to make any comparisons in this part of the country because of the changes to the rivers and creeks. They have filled in so much from construction in their watersheds and then there's the reduction in the water table, all of which reduces the deep holes they need for survival. The gravel alone is more serious then meets the eye do to the fact that much of it doesn't stop water from flowing, it only prevents it from accumulating deep enough to house aquatic animals.