Wayne SW/MO

I know that there was a spot below Powersite that would cut like a razor blade, including heavy braid. I often wondered if it wasn't zebras.

Here's a source for 100% labeled wood for smoking. Traeger also has pellets for smoking, but they are said to 30% labeled and 70% oak. I believe the BBQ Delights are made in Pine Bluff. I have some Traeger's and they do a good job, but I haven't had in 100% pecan to compare with. I think their Hickory does a good job. Of course nothing does as well as chunks for long hours of smoking, but I seldom go over 3 hours. Wood pellets for smoking

The hole below the dam is often known as the Apron hole and the hole between the hatchery outlet and the whistle, the Long hole.

You probably need some nitrite in it. The best source I'm aware of is The Sausage Maker in Buffalo NY. You shouldn't have much trouble cold smoking this time of the year, do it on a cold day with the vents wide open. Apple is good, or kf you want something different, but still mild, you could try red oak or pecan.

If you want to re-season an oven that is clean, run it through an oven cleaning cycle if you have one.

They do alright on stillwater, but one wouldn't be my first choice. Mine had a motor board on it and I used it twice in the years I had the boat. They take a long shaft and because of the design they don't draft consistently, so you need water that is deep. There are some made that have an opening back from the bow that puts the motor closer to center and will use a short shaft. Some of the Midwest models don't have the rocker that the west coast drifts do and they might do better with a motor.

You wouldn't catch me there now, it was scary enough in the 70's. Go to Texas. The Fork maybe.

I've had a couple of Extrasports that I've used for about 20 years and they're still going. They make short vest intended for kayaks, etc. I've never felt comfortable wearing any waders but neoprene in my kayaks or canoes. If it's cold enough for waders you can't be in the water to long and neoprene's not only offer flotation, but insulation as well. A pair of cheap neoprene's and a good belt, topped by a real life vest would make me comfortable.

However OB, Tim, Eric, and others, didn't we find that the climatologist at East Anglica U, the leaders in the man made theory, did just that. Did they not fabricate some of there historical data and try to prevent others from critiquing their findings? Don't many of these same climatologist that are behind the man made warning theory also believe that the Little Ice Age was caused by global warming that shut down the Atlantic Conveyor?

Sounds more like a member of the Tea Party to me.

That's right Eric, but 150 years a go an ice age was ending. I'm not against caution, but we haven't seen intelligent alternatives yet. The light bulbs mentioned, all made in China. Our industrial sector wasn't even given a chance. Alternative energy, all aimed at new ones, while viable ones with a large amount of R & D already paid for are thrown aside. When realistic answers are put forth that don't reward political allies I'll sign on to doing what we can, as long as it's not to allegedly stop Global Warming. Nothing is going to stop it except Mother Earth, but we can help lessen our impact. When our "representatives" give themselves one standard of living and feel good about subjecting the rest to a different living standard, its insane to think they will offer up realistic answers that soften the impact on the electorate.

I would like to see that graph with an overlay of population growth. The temperature line doesn't seem to be behaving, kind of of erratic. some pretty significant swings actually.

I agree with some of that Tim and there are more important things, to me at least, that could be done. We could start by working a lot harder on preserving trees that are still standing and planting more. Find ways to recycle that are friendly. Work on ridding the environment of heat projecting surfaces and work on realistic energy programs. Capitalism is a key to making progress. Profit tops the job security influence of the research grants. The problem I see is that when you hear that 2 companies are going to split 28 billion for windmills and solar panels, neither of which has been proven to be environmentally friendly or to be a real solution. Where's the money for research in making hydrogen and natural gas a realistic fuel? Why is there still a freeze on nuclear plants? The whole civilized world is turning to them, but no us. Scientific accuracy? Don't make me bring up YK2.:lol:

Beetle spin was one I believe, but I can't remember the other even though I should. I was on Ensley's show one time and I watched him religiously when I could. My aunt called him and told him I had caught a big bass and he invited me to come on the show. He wasn't thrilled that I wouldn't tell him where I caught, but I couldn't, I had sneaked in.:rolleyes:

Without man where would we be? Some talk as if we would still be in the ice age. Too many scientist are taking questionable data and using it to explain what they belive is an unusual change in climate, but how do they know when they comparing the equivalent of years of climate change to a second of change? The climate is obviously changing, everyone knows that and you don't need a scientist to tell you, it's in the geology and the very short history of mankind's first hand experience. The big question is do we put our money and labor into preparation for climate change, or diddle around thinking we control it? Someone show me that this big battle to change the progression of climate change isn't making more billionaires than progress?

It's hard for me to even speculate about northern bass fishing, having never done it. In the area of MO, AR, OK, TX I think there's is little doubt that pulling bass off the nest generally destroys that spawn. At least that's what the few studies done indicate. I suspect that the heavy catch and release practice mitigates the damages however in this area. The question I can't answer is "do northern fishermen have a different attitude"? I understand they don't practice a lot of C & R for Walleye, so does that hold true for bass? If we are talking all waters, then a river like the John Day has a different set of guidelines altogether. It's relatively cold for SM bass, but there is very little catch and kill practiced on it. It's also somewhat remote and far from populated areas. In this instance the growth factor probably doesn't mean as much as it would in river close to a large population. I think the question has to be answered for each and every body of water, because it's hard to make a regulation fit all circumstances. While blanket regs are necessary for hunting given the fact there are no boundaries for wildlife, fish do have boundaries and can be regulated by watersheds.

Just a little tongue in cheek there Justin.

I agree Cricket, you can't put up a question about a subject in which billions are changing hands, where people's well being is ignored, the world authority on the subject is found to be dishonest, and the subject in question has been going on for millions of years unabated. But if that's the way he wants it I won't:rolleyes:

Amen to that!

I spent most of my youth in Trenton. We built fires on the ice when we ice skated on the creek. Never had any desire to fish through the ice though.

I don't think so. I haven't fished a lot of lakes for trout. I used to make a trip or two in the spring to the Alvord desert in Oregon to fish Mann lake. Mann lake had Lahonton Cutts and you had to fool them, not feed them. I fished other lakes on occasion and they could be tough and you had to fish them with some stealth. I don't think the trout in this state have to be wild to offer a challenge, they just need time to reclaim their instincts. OB, just what is the goal exactly?

Great! That's a great use of a man made ditch.

My anti virus blocked it.

That's surprising today. Decades ago ice skating on lakes and creeks in central to north Missouri was an annual event, but I don't think it happens very often now. North Missouri might still experience it, but I haven't been there in the winter in 30 years.

I don't oppose enhancing fishing for anyone, but I think the money could be better spent. Lets face it, dumping trout in a warm water pond during a time when they can survive isn't exposing people to a different kind of fishing, just another fish. Do any of you really think the experience represents trout fishing? I'm sure there are some who trout fish these lakes, but I'm sure others, and they are probably the majority, see an opportunity to fill the freezer. It's common at the parks and there's no reason to think different at urban ponds. I think supplying urban kids with equipment and instruction to give them an experience that can be repeated without economic help would be a bigger bang for the buck. Justin it would be great if I could agree with your assessment about Missouri's trout fishing, but it in no way compares to the areas where they are native. We can be thankful that we have what we have, especially the rare areas where they survive on their own.