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I do not know about a lot of the rest of the lake because i have not been past the mouth of the gravois except one time in the past couple years. I know where there are some old mining lakes up by Warrenton that I heard got massive LMB in them. If we decide to go back that way that is one if the aresa we might go to.

I think they are being invasive if you can call it that here. I do not know why exactly so many more numbers and I certainly would not trust any explanation from the MDC. Their biggest concern here is sucking up and running interference for business groups. I do not think there I have ever seen so many around 8-10 inches. I know that have been having some fine spawns as well this past spring I caught 2 or 3 limits of 15 inch Kentucky bass in one area that has always been one of my hot LMB spawning areas. One time the year before. I and a neighbor caught 17 bass from 17 to 19 inches in that area in 3 hrs one evening. I know the Kentucky spawn earlier than LMB but the LMB put on a very poor spawn in that area this past spring. I am just convinced there are toooo many of them. I know several locales who keep small Kentucky.

I agree with you wayne. The big secrets were always HOW . And those if you do keep a few. Are generally so far from the norm they think your full of it anyway.

I agree with Wrench. Its the time of year to have a ball with Kentucky bass. This year they seem even more prevalent to me. I fish them off the front corners a lot in the fall. I am not much of a spinner fan. Until I had to stop I was catching all kinds of them 11 to 13 inches long(and a awful lot smaller as well) on trick worms and flukes. I use a 7 ft very light action spinning outfit and have a ball. Been doing this for along time. It is all about fun to me. I just love to do it. This year on the 8th I was in regional hospital up in Jeff City. Came home the 9th and going to be very limited till the 18th. If things are nice out there still on the 19th I will get a few hours in MAYBE. Fall has always been my favorite. Then on the 20th I go to sports medicine up in Jeff and having had sufficient experience with that guy I know I will not be out there again for a couple of months. Bye the way since those are Kentucky bass are legal at a foot. You should not feel shy about taking a few for fillets. They make very good eating. They have been very prevalent all this year in the gravois. A few less certainly cannot hurt.

Yeah they would be great especially the little worms. But 50 yrs ago we did not have them

When I used to tie my own they were always hair I liked to put small traitor on the back of everything marabou sticks to it. Mostly in brown. That was my ticket from birds nest to Onandaga

That was not wenchie I think it was The kid. First it was her car door now her knee. She swore there was no scratch and called me a liar just goes to show you.

The thing about most bass fishermen and everyone else is that have driven the price of everything to do with fishing up into the stars. Fishermen think they have to buy the best and newest of everything. I seen someone say on here something like" well it is ok for a $7 dollar plug". Anther thing is rods and reels. The thing about both of those things it is the pros push them and like a school of white bass frenzy feeding all the cool fishermen race out there and bite. Ido like the new very long casting rods but I think the price i see is ridiculous. The pros and such are always fishing with the alleged best equipment and lures. NUTS. Let me tell you something he is fishing with them because UPS is showing up at his door now and then with boxes of junk for him to use next time he goes out.

I am kind if surprised at your choice wrench. But i accept your view. If i do not come back after tomorrow. You can come down here and sell mine.

Gzzzzzzz Mitch your worse than me about boats. Anybody ever threaten to throw you out of the house. My current one will be my last one my last one I am pretty sure if that. If I had to choose right now from these photos. I think iI would go with the Prince Craft. I have seen a few of those around here and they look sturdy. I like the lay out the most. The front casting deck looks a bit larger also. I do not have a foot control in mine I have a fold up alum handle that I bought from a outfit down south. It makes for much more room and is a easy to operate. I have the only one i have seen on this lake and it would identify me.

Yeah thats true too NESS but most of our ozark lakes either do or will have that problem as they age unless they do a better job of sewage treatment. The Ozark's are full of quaffers i think it is spelled. Sewage water from septic lines goes down into those cracks in the limestone and can travel miles. They have found dye in big springs from a town miles away. They are attempting to do something about that here. I am on sewers myself. The treatment plant we have here in the Morgan county sewer district releases water that is actually sterilized. They added 500 homes more on it last last year. And now are coming up on nearly 1000 homes on it. Its very hard to install sewers on these rocky lots and it is not cheap at. $60 a month. Problem is some if these counties cannot get a sewage bill passed. But it is going to happen in the future. It has to happen.

God i hope so Mitch. But I have seen my dentist neighbor pump 200 gals into his cigarette boat over a weekend. The other fuel that runs them around here they sell in the bars and in town.the liquor department in the G2M market in Laurie spans 4 or 6 rows.

Length width and freeboard. A good alum deepV with a strong long shaft electric troller on the front so that you can maneuver when you get trapped near docks in a large wake. Then stay off it on Saturday afternoons. About half the boaters cannot see by that time anyway.

AnywayI got jigs from 1/32 to 3/4 oz in my locker. Also buy Road runner type lures bulk. I got those in 1/32, 1/16 and 1/8. I think here on LOZ the 1/16 or 1/8 road runner is king for crappie. I use them almost entirely with plastic bodies. Most small jigs you find in the stores have hooks to small and too short.. Really I prefer a longer shank and light wire hook in my little jigs and road runners. I have never seen a Zig Jig. What sizes do they come in. That sounds like something i would like to try. Curly tails do about the same type action I would imagine. If it make wider zigs however it would interest me. I also am picky about the curly tail trailers I use. I like those that the action starts very easy like Kalins and PBS Triple Ripple.

WAYNE------Your in my age group wayne. That is how we grew up eating them. Habit is what it is. I tried this crushed potato chip thing they talked about on here and it is really good. I took 14 12 inch Kentucky bass fillets up to Hermann last weekend to my daughters and between 4 people we cleaned them up. It is real simple to make. Myself I just lspray non stick on a baking sheet, lay the filets on there then sprinkle paprika on the fish and cover them with with a thick coating of crushed potato chips. Sprinkle melted butter on top of that then bake them for 10 minutes. They are really good. Worst part is crushing the potato chips. I put them in a plastid bag and beat then with a meat tenderized. I want to experiment with different flavored chips etc.

Well Mitch I could really care less what you get but whatever you get get the feel of it before you come out to LOZ. This thing is big,brutal and dangerous.

Think about the. Cost of running a big heavy boaat is as well. I have a friend bought a new 18 ft bass cat last year and strapped a 300 hp yamaha on it. I have no idea how fast that thing will go but i have seen him going down the channel a few time during the week and I have never seen anything else that fast. It is vertually airborne. Boat cost $50K all total. If your looking at a big bass boat or fish and ski you can be sure it is going to run you around $40 at least. That is too rich for my blood.

I have given this some thought. A boat is like a shoe its got to fit you. I would not want to say anyone is better than the other for that reason. You could begin your boat shopping right on the internet buy just going to each manufactures web site to study the models and things such as there construction. You can also google up pros and cons on every model made. Then I would go to the boat show when it hits St Louis and look at everything that interest you and pick up a lot of pamphlets. When you ask us on here your hearing views that are a bit biased a lot of the time I think.

I do too F&F center. The only thing i do not like is the slick floors .

My tracker targa is 12 yrs old. Structurally has taken 12 yrs of lake if the Ozark's in stride. I do fault some of the wiring harries and Iivewell installation setup and a few other things. But it has never about broken my back the way a bass boat has in a days fishing. The new ones that i have seen i do not like as well as mine be cause the front casting decks are less roomy than mine. I had one nasty dangerous problem with that boat that was due I believe to manufacturing. The year my model was built they installed a plastic screw in plate on the transom for the drain out plug. In all these years i had never used it. But recently I installed a new sump pump in the boat and wanted to drain all the water out I could. I went to unscrew the plug and the whole plug plate and all fell in my hand. A investigation showed they had attached it with pop rivets and that they did not get them totally thru the hole. Meaning they were only kind of wedged in there. Only thing holding that that whole plate on was the marine sealer cement and that was about to let loose apparently. Had that came out on the lake water would have shot in there awful awful fast. Other than that the boat is comfortable. And very safe for this lake. One other thing is they are not easy to work on. They use a wiring harness setup that is mostly inaccessible but can be worked around and the water lines for various things( mine has two powered bait wells a 50" real devided Live well and a 20 gal front one none of which I use. ) are under the deck and you would have to remove the deck to work on them. But the electric thing and the live well thing is that way in all fishing boats that i know of.

I think wrench could give you a better reply on this than most of us on here could. He's rode in many many more kinds than most of us have. From what I see on here in pictures and fishing tackle talk money is no object anyway with a lot of you. Only thing I would recommend is at least 19 ft. and 20 would be better,good windshield and pay attention to how the seats are configured. Most bass boats have very pretty seats but they do not give you real good back support. I personnally do not like them because you sit so low and they are hard to get out of. They will beat you up pretty good in a chop as well

I had a nice bunch of fillets up at my daughters in hermann used that baking recipe Mitch put on here with the crushed potato chips. Were not crappie though. I kept some of these 12 and 13 inch Kentucky bass that seem to be all over the place in my area.

Someone recently gave me a suspending bait called a twitcher.i have no idea who makes the thing.but i certainly likewhat i seen of it testing it off the dock. Anyone know who makes it...???

I discovered this little flat rap about a month or so ago. I liked the shape. On the lake when you snap it it will dive a few inches then start a slow rise. It has been a little jewel. At this tine of the year. Bass will lay under the corners of a dock especially and way lay shad. I had a lot if fun with that little plug. Caught a lot of dinks but many 12 inch kentuckies that seem to be very prevalent around here this fall.