Phil Lilley

Yes- it's above the cable at outlet #3.

Sounds like another Never-Ending-Story...

I started laughing before I began to read this... I knew what was coming. Like the new avatar too...

I've heard that they were going to shut it down the day before yesterday, yesterday and today... they may or they may not. But know this... once they shut the gates down, they hopefully will stay within their restricted flow and that's 125 mw, about 2.5 turbines. They will also have to inject liquid O2 to keep the levels above 4 pmm. Right now, at least below Fall Creek, the level is well over 6-8 pmm which is fantastic for the fish- that's why it's been so good. Once they shut it down, it might not be as good because of the drop in oxygen. So don't be so quick to wish for the gates to shut down. Yes the water is high and fast but as long as you get down to the bottom, you'll catch trout, as long as their biting. Yesterday was a slow day because the trout didn't bite as aggressively as they did the day before. That's fishing (catching). I'm not trying to discourage anyone not to head down and fish... but when the gates do shut down, it will be slower and shallower, water will go back to 50 degrees and the DO will drop. The trout may not like that for a day or two. But they may like it too!

is 46 today!! Happy Birthday, Don!

Jeremy- can you give us a fishing report? How are you catching fish and on what?

Wow... I'm speechless. First, I will close this. Thought about deleting it but I like the initial post too much. It's a funny story about a guide having a bad day. Nothing wrong with it. Most everyone got a kick out of it. Again - take your personal stuff and put it in a PM. Keep it off the forum.

John and I got out at 9 am this morning and then this afternoon from 2-5 pm. We boated to the dam. 10 gates. Same conditions we've seen all week. Fishing was slow all day in general... not like yesterday at all. White 1/8th oz jigs were by far the best. If they weren't on the bottom you didn't get bit. I tried adding split shot but was about the same as a straight jig. Almost all the rainbows were good sized - up to 18 inches probably. Good fighters too. I did hook one big brown below outlet #3 about 100 yards and the hook pulled out. "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"> "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360">

My thoughts exactly. And I don't have a dog!

Good read... I can identify.

Correction- I sell the jigs and jig heads, not the molds.

I sell them at the shop and online. Or you can get them from where I get them but I have more colors than http://ejigs.com. As for heads, I have them too but they aren't cheap. I can't get unpainted heads.

I don't cast in the outlets... they are limited to a small portion of water and I have the whole lake. There are more trout in the main lake than the outlets... it's a misnomer to think they are all at the outlet mouths. You experienced the same thing I did with the wind. I had to constantly move the boat downstream with the trolling motor, keeping the boat moving the same speed as the current. I threw straight upstream, which I don't like to do, and starting working the jig when I felt the bottom for the first time. I lost several jigs. I haven't seen any shad either. I have also not seen any FAT rainbows, another sign I usually look for when looking for evidence of shad. I think we've had shad come over the top but they've lived and are schooling around, as reported. The best fishing has been drifting a scud from Andy's down to Fall Creek by far. If the wind isn't bad, the dam drift with white jigs would be good too.

I don't want to start anything here guys but how can you distinguish one fish from another. There is a remote chance they are but... We always get in trouble guessing size and weight of fish - in someone's hand, in the water... wherever. I'll just say from now on... it's a big fish. No lengths, no girths, no weights. And leave it at that.

Thought you told me 36 inches... I've been telling fish stories!! Oh well. Not the first time. It's a mammoth fish, do doubt. We get in trouble guessing size. It is in 6-7 feet of water.

Thanks... I almost feel like it's abusing first amendment rights... almost! Not quite!!

This again is turning down a road we don't want to go down. There's been some good points brought up in the beginning so I'm going to leave it. But it's clear we can't do this again. I wish there was some way to carve out a section of the forum and just let it go - whatever. But the problem is it bleeds over to the fishing forum. "I don't like this guy cause he's liberal... or conservative... or a rebel... or a gun totter" So don't get offended if I delete a topic or two unless it looks like they are going to take away anybody's fishing rights... then I think we all will scream foul!

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Here's alittle video of the current along the bluff. It's not as fast as you think. "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360">

There are two big browns in the video - one that turns and you can hear it move the gravel when it does and then the big one that slowly move into the frame and past. The water here is deep. The only way someone could catch any of these big fish is to snag them but even then it would be difficult. They are spooky- would run from a light. Didn't like my little camera at all.

Fished from 9 - 1 pm today. Drifted (that's about all you can do) a white 1/8th oz jig from the dam to the ramp with some success. Wind, again, was tough. I gave up. Dropped down to Lookout and drifted a tan #10 scud on a spinning rod and did much better. Rolan Duffield is here this week and they've done well using a gray #10 scud drifting down the middle. Lots of nice rainbows. Caught this one at the bottom of one drift on the flats - "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360">

Brian Shaffer summons me to outlet #3 this morning to show me the big brown he's been watching for the past day. It's easily over 30 pounds - big female. Brian just called me and said there's a small brown now with the big brown and another rainbow that would go 10 pounds. Lots of fish gathered in the outlets right now, understandable. "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="445" height="364">

Flaming Gorge Tailwater... the Green River. Spectacular rock walls, torrent water, pockets full of large trout taking small dries and midge flies. Second choice would have to be the Naknek River, beads and leeches and 35 inch monster rainbows (and bears).

Terry- what was the winning bid?

Very good flick. I see both sides of the issue... wish MDC could work something out. Make it catch and release at least so those guys aren't looking over their shoulder.