Phil Lilley

Very frustrated with the quality of the video online. Everything I try doesn't better the quality. Anyone- any suggestions? Made with iMovie. I have Final Cut Express coming this week.

Interesting... I'll have to look into it.

Interesting... I'll have to look into it.

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http://ozarkanglers.com/index.php?option=c...8&Itemid=48 Here's the link.

My mistake. The week I have booked is July 11-18. Just as good if not better fishing. I have 4 cabins left.

I will... if I remember. Remind me, PZ

Believe it or not, Naknek River Camp's schedule is filling fast for the 2009 season. http://naknekrivercamp.com Johnson's rates are SO low, anglers are jumping all over the ability to fish in Alaska for less than $3200 including airfare. Johnson's rate is $1995 this year for the week stay which includes lodging, meals and guide service for 6 days. If you want to fish the day you arrive and the day you leave, boats are available to fish on your own. That's 8 days of great Alaska fishing. There's an option for flyouts for $2595. This is a really good deal. I've paid between $350 and $400 for most fly outs I've done there so $300 per flyout is a bargain. Flyout options- Battle Creek, Morraine Creek, Ugashik Narrows and many others. He even has a fish-on-your-own rate of $1495. I'm hosting a trip for the week of July 4-11, 2009. I have several spots still open that week. I'm not sure what my summer/fall schedule will be but I know I'll be up there that week. It's prime sockeye and king salmon season with thousands of sockeye running by the lodge everyday. Kings are in prime too. We travel up in Big Creek and fly fish for up to 60 pounders. Deposits are due at the first of the year so save some Christmas cash.

We just sent out a resort newsletter via email yesterday to our guests offering lodging discounts for the next 2-3 weeks. Half-Price Christmas Special: Dec. 15-22 on all rooms and boat rentals – for everyone! (We are also still offering 25 % off rooms Sunday through Thursday up until Dec. 18.) Come finish your Christmas shopping and tour the light displays around town and at Silver Dollar City while catching a few trout, too. We also can mail out gift certificates the same day you order them or make them while you wait in the office. We have some rooms left between Christmas and New Years. Call the office at 1-800-284-2196 for availability and reservations. http://lilleyslanding.com

We just sent out a resort newsletter via email yesterday to our guests offering lodging discounts for the next 2-3 weeks. Half-Price Christmas Special: Dec. 15-22 on all rooms and boat rentals – for everyone! (We are also still offering 25 % off rooms Sunday through Thursday up until Dec. 18.) Come finish your Christmas shopping and tour the light displays around town and at Silver Dollar City while catching a few trout, too. We also can mail out gift certificates the same day you order them or make them while you wait in the office. We have some rooms left between Christmas and New Years. Call the office at 1-800-284-2196 for availability and reservations. http://lilleyslanding.com

He's writing a book. He's fine.

I know you too well! Thanks.

So be it.

Bill and I talked. We don't think it was a good idea promoting or giving people the idea of heading to LOZ for the sole purpose to get off on private docks and fish. I didn't think of what could happen given the number of people who would watch this video and the repercussions that could come from it. I would imagine, say, if the local paper up there or the local chamber of commerce got ahold of it and broadcast that a fishing website is promoting this, we'd be in deep dodo. So I'm going to pull the video and apologize again. It's been a good and informative discussion though.

Fishhand- you bring up an unfortunate possibility. People in the limelight- in the ministry, whether he or she are celebs or just shepherd a small group, are attacked 100x more than the average believer. If satan and his imps can bring a leader down, then he does more damage to the Gospel than anything. It's common military practice. Not saying this to give excuse to anyone in sin or for the sin. The more a man in blessed, the more responsibility is given plus he is held to a higher standard. That's why Christ got on the religious rulers much more than anyone else. A leader, whether it's a priest, pastor or elder, has much more to fear to "come clean" of any sin in his life, especially one that- well- half of society now believes is "really" wrong. Most are thrown under the bus with no opportunity for rehabilitation and that's exactly what the church is supposed to do- heal and forgive. That's why so many leaders never confess but continue till they get caught, run away or kill themselves.

When I attended school in Dallas, we used to go down to the red light district and the gay discos to talk to people after much prayer and intercession and we saw God do some pretty cool things. But for me it was an eye-opener, being from a small SE Kansas town. There's a place and time to be sent and I'm not sure this is one. But you might have something... I understand what you're saying in reference to "pastors and preachers" but anyone who has the anointing and leading of God can go and minister. Doesn't have to just be the "professionals".

Had a great time. Fishing is fishing. Sorry I missed MC. I video'ed Duane cast and strip and I was going to post it BUT I didn't check my camera lens- had a couple of spots on it. When will I ever learn to check the lens on my cameras. I miss more shots. Next time. They running a ton of water this morning!! But it looks like they're already starting to drop it.

This is what I didn't want this to turn into. That's why I asked not to use the words freak and such. I shouldn't have posted it in the first place because I should have know it would head in this direction ultimately. Joe is right is some respects. People with this problem are all around us. They need help and prayers, not our condemnation. All of us are sinners and no one has the right to throw stones. The point of the post is to make aware of the situation because of the possible exposure to kids and adults and to try to help law enforcement officials bring charges to that they move on out of our parks and trails. We can preach and quote scientist, philosophers and the Bible all day on the forum, but this avenue of communication is impersonal at best and this situation warrants more than debate. It requires caring people ministering to those who want to be free of this oppression. Alot of these guys feel trapped and helpless and ashamed and want to be free but to do so means telling someone who does care to get the help they need. Usually it's a Pastor or counselor but if it's the wrong Pastor you get the old heave-hoe cause alot of laymen don't know how to handle someone with this affliction. Bottom line, sin, any sin, keeps us from a true and honest and open relationship with God. It takes a truly repentant and sorrowful heart and a bent knee AND people around us who have the heart of God, not a book in their hand using it as a hammer, to bring us out of sin and put on on a road of healing and an ongoing relationship with the Lord.

I think both of us, Bill and I, have admitted just what you're stating. Bill isn't trying to justify anything, just pointing out interesting facts he's researched. Not sure why we keep getting beat over the head for this. I may just delete this post, the article and the video and be done with it.

This was my first time on LOZ, as I said. There are docks ALL OVER the lake. There's hardly a bare shore anywhere. We did look for docks in deeper water. I bet some docks have brush. LOZ is an old lake so what brush is there is put there. If I had a dock there it would be full of brush.

http://www.lovelycitizen.com/story/1482955.html EUREKA SPRINGS -- The high water level of Beaver Lake caused by repeated rains during the spring and summer will soon come to a close. On Monday, Dec. 1, the Army Corps of Engineers began making releases through the hydropower turbines to bring the reservoir down almost six feet to the top of the conservation pool. "We won't be opening the floodgates like we did in the spring," said P. J. Spaul, Public Affairs Officer for the Corps of Engineers Public Affairs Office in Little Rock. "We'll use the turbines to release the water." Last in line Spaul said the process has taken so long because five other dams downstream on the 722-mile-lone White River had to lower their own impoundments enough to make room for water from Beaver Lake. "We'll lower the lake to 1,120.4 feet, what most people consider 'normal,' although Beaver is a man-made lake and meant to fluctuate," Spaul said. "1,120.4 is the level we try to maintain except for extremely wet or dry weather." The Corps is advising boat dock owners to keep an eye on their docks during the first two weeks in December and move them as needed to prevent them from grounding as the lake recedes. Starkey Marina "For us, for most of the concessionaires, this will be a pretty much everyday thing," said Linda Lemon, co-owner of Starkey Marina. "It's the private dock owners, the ones who aren't permanent residents and don't have anyone to look after their docks, who may be left high and dry. For us, it will mean checking the docks daily, or maybe twice a day, instead of once a week." Phased drawdown Releases will continue 18 hours a day. If additional heavy rains fall in the interim, the process could be extended over a longer period of time. On or about Wednesday, Dec. 10, the releases will be cut back to 12 hours a day, and the lake level will continue going down at a slower rate until about Dec. 13, when the conservation pool elevation of 1,120.4 ft. is expected to be reached. Daily lake information can be obtained on the Internet by going to www.swl.usace.army.mil and clicking the "Water Management" button.

http://www.outdoorcentral.com/fishing/fish...arkansas-waters December 3, 2008 LITTLE ROCK – Arkansas Game and Fish Commission crews stocked over 856,500 fish in Arkansas lakes and rivers during October, according to Mike Armstrong, chief of fisheries. The total stocking of fish weighed in excess of 144,000 pounds. October stockings: Amon’s Lake, Baxter County, 150 catchable rainbow trout Lake Ann, Benton County, 8,775 yearling black crappie Lake Atalanta, Benton County, 1,700 catchable rainbow trout Lake Austell, Cross County, 300 catchable channel catfish Lake Avalon, Benton County, 4,690 fingerling black crappie Bear Creek Lake, Lee County, 1,880 catchable channel catfish Beaver Lake, Washington and Benton Counties, 60,000 yearling black crappie Beaver Tailwater, Carroll County, 10,501 catchable rainbow trout Benton City Lake, Saline County, 1,300 catchable channel catfish Bicentennial Lake, Sebastian County, 300 catchable channel catfish Big Piney Creek, Pope County, 256 catchable channel catfish Bois d Arc Lake, Hempstead County, 314 catchable channel catfish Boyle Park Pond, Pulaski County, 600 catchable channel catfish Bradley County Lake, Bradley County, 180 catchable channel catfish Bragg Lake, Ouachita County, 260 catchable rainbow trout Lake Brittany, Benton County, 3,150 yearling black crappie Bull Shoals Lake, Marion, Boone and Baxter Counties, 45,600 yearling blue catfish Bull Shoals Lake, Marion County, 2,200 catchable channel catfish Cabot Community Pond, Lonoke County, 1,006 catchable channel catfish Calion Lake, Union County, 774 catchable rainbow trout Camp Preston Hunt, Miller County, 300 catchable channel catfish Camp Preston Hunt, Miller County, 24 yearling grass carp Cavester Cove, Sharp County, 250 catchable channel catfish Cedar-Piney Lake, Yell County, 336 catchable channel catfish Champagnolle Creek, Calhoun County, 352 catchable channel catfish Champagnolle Creek, Calhoun County, 3,000 yearling grass carp Charleston City Lake, Franklin County, 342 catchable channel catfish Cherrywood Lake, Pulaski County, 1,310 catchable channel catfish Lake Chicot, Chicot County, 80,000 yearling black crappie Lake Chicot, Chicot County, 20,000 yearling white crappie Clubhouse Lake, Yell County, 160 catchable channel catfish Cotter Big Spring, Baxter County, 300 catchable rainbow trout Cox Creek Lake, Grant County, 260 yearling grass carp Cox Cypress Lake, Arkansas County, 257 catchable channel catfish Craighead Forest Park Lake, Craighead County, 400 yearling grass carp Crossett City Park Lake, Ashley County, 400 catchable channel catfish Cypress Bayou Pond, Lonoke County, 150 catchable channel catfish Lake DeGray, Hot Spring and Clark Counties, 25,560 yearling black crappie Lake Des Arc, Prairie County, 1,050 catchable channel catfish De Witt City Lake, Arkansas County, 450 catchable channel catfish Lake Dunn, Cross County, 300 catchable channel catfish Dupree Park Lake, Pulaski County, 300 catchable channel catfish Energy Park Lake, Garland County, 300 catchable channel catfish Engineer Lake #2, Pulaski County, 500 catchable channel catfish Lake Enterprise, Ashley County, 900 catchable channel catfish Fair Park Pond, Hempstead County, 400 catchable channel catfish Family Park Lake, Garland County, 1,000 catchable channel catfish Foreman Lake, Pulaski County, 240 catchable grass carp Forrest City Sports Complex Pond, St. Francis County, 200 catchable channel catfish Fort Roots Lake, Pulaski County, 600 catchable channel catfish Fourche LaFave River, Scott County, 526 catchable channel catfish Lake Georgia-Pacific, Ashley County, 1,700 catchable channel catfish Grandview #1 Lake, Hempstead County, 326 catchable channel catfish Greers Ferry Lake, Cleburne and Van Buren Counties, 30,817 yearling black crappie Lake Greeson, Pike County, 7,350 yearling black crappie Lake Hamilton, Garland County, 2,639 catchable channel catfish Harris Brake Lake, Perry County, 982 catchable channel catfish Harrison City Lake, Boone County, 300 catchable channel catfish Hickson Lake, Monroe County, 157 catchable channel catfish Lake Hindsville, Madison County, 8,556 fingerling bluegill bream Huckleberry Lake, Pope County, 589 catchable channel catfish Hunter Lake, Pulaski County, 300 catchable channel catfish Illinois Bayou, Pope County, 400 catchable channel catfish Interstate Pond #2, Monroe County, 257 catchable channel catfish Interstate Pond #4, Monroe County, 171 catchable channel catfish Irons Fork Lake, Polk County, 460 catchable channel catfish Lake June, Lafayette County, 296 catchable channel catfish Keeland Lake, Yell County, 316 catchable channel catfish Kingfisher Lake, Yell County, 316 catchable channel catfish Kiwanis Park, Pulaski County, 800 catchable channel catfish Lee Creek, Crawford County, 384 catchable channel catfish Lee Creek Lake, Crawford County, 902 catchable channel catfish Lilly Pad Pond, Yell County, 316 catchable channel catfish Little Missouri River, Pike County, 879 catchable channel catfish Little Red River, Cleburne County, 19,135 catchable rainbow trout Lake Loch Lomond, Benton County, 33,390 yearling black crappie Lake Lou Emma, Crawford County, 290 catchable channel catfish Lyon College Pond, Independence County, 300 catchable channel catfish MacArthur Park Lake, Pulaski County, 500 catchable channel catfish Martin Luther King Park, Jefferson County, 800 catchable channel catfish McKinley Park Lake, Saline County, 510 catchable channel catfish Mike & Janet Huckabee Kids Pond, Hempstead County, 200 catchable channel catfish Mike & Janet Huckabee Lake, Hempstead County, 310 catchable channel catfish Miller Pond, Woodruff County, 150 catchable channel catfish Mirror Lake, Stone County, 1,000 catchable rainbow trout Lake Monticello, Drew County, 755 catchable channel catfish Mulberry River, Franklin County, 590 catchable channel catfish Murphy Park Lake, Washington County, 300 catchable rainbow trout Nashville City Park Lake, Howard County, 250 catchable channel catfish Lake Norrell, Saline County, 240 yearling grass carp Norfork Lake, Baxter County, 22,000 yearling blue catfish Norfork Lake, Baxter County, 2,200 catchable channel catfish Norfork River, Baxter County, 2,071 fingerling brown trout Norfork River, Baxter County, 8,288 catchable rainbow trout Norwood Lake, Benton County, 2,450 yearling black crappie Old Davidsonville State Park Lake, Randolph County, 304 catchable channel catfish Otter Creek Park Pond, Pulaski County, 650 catchable channel catfish Lake Ouachita, Montgomery and Garland Counties, 10,026 catchable channel catfish Lake Ouachita, Montgomery and Garland Counties, 50,624 yearling black crappie Ouachita River, Hot Spring County, 1,251 catchable channel catfish Parkway Village Ponds, Pulaski County, 608 catchable channel catfish Petit Jean River, Yell County, 632 catchable channel catfish Lake Pickthorne, Lonoke County, 528 catchable channel catfish Plum Bayou, Lonoke County, 3,040 yearling black crappie Pullen Pond, Yell County, 316 catchable channel catfish Lake Rayburn, Benton County, 3,150 yearling black crappie Regional Park Pond, Jefferson County, 400 catchable channel catfish Robe Bayou, Monroe County, 306 catchable channel catfish Lake Saracin/Pine Bluff Lake, Jefferson County, 1,502 catchable channel catfish Searcy City Lake, White County, 250 catchable channel catfish Shores Lake, Franklin County, 298 catchable channel catfish Siloam Springs City Park, Benton County, 300 catchable catfish Spring River, Fulton County, 9,645 catchable rainbow trout Spring River, Fulton County, 10,000 fingerling brown trout Lake Springdale, Washington County, 300 catchable rainbow trout Storm Creek Lake, Phillips County, 2,592 yearling blue catfish Swepco Lake, Benton County, 112,490 fingerling bluegill bream Swepco Lake, Benton County, 50 yearling grass carp Tri County Lake, Calhoun County, 448 catchable channel catfish War Memorial Park, Pulaski County, 200 catchable channel catfish Ward City Lake, Lonoke County, 150 catchable channel catfish Wells Lake, Sebastian County, 1,000 catchable channel catfish Lake Winona, Saline County, 1,722 catchable channel catfish Lake Wedington, Washington County, 28,520 fingerling bluegill bream White River, Baxter, Izard, Marion and Stone Counties, 68,320 catchable rainbow trout White River, Baxter, Izard and Stone Counties, 78,349 fingerling brown trout White River, Jackson and Independence Counties, 8,460 catchable paddlefish White River, Independence and Stone Counties, 10,560 fingerling paddlefish White River, Independence County, 3,000 yearling paddlefish Whitstine Lake, Independence County, 300 catchable channel catfish Lake Wilson, Ashley County, 457 catchable channel catfish Lake Windsor, Benton County, 15,400 yearling black crappie Wrape Plantation Lake, Arkansas County, 166 catchable channel catfish Yell County Wildlife Federation Pond, Yell County, 288 catchable channel catfish

I was not comfortable at all. Bill knew it. I think he was a little too. Next time we'll have to find a way to catch those fish without getting off on the docks.

Sure- I'll let you know when I find them. And yes last year we caught some nice crappie.

If you're done fishing for the day and have a limit of trout, you can fillet the fish on a dock or on the bank (if the place you're fishing allows cleaning on the bank) and bag them. The fish have to be properly labeled, name to identify who's fish they are. Head and skin I guess is if you were still on the water fishing in an area where you'd have to prove they were legal fish as to kind and length. Of course that's about any body of water in Missouri. Once the catch is "off the water" then it can be separated from it's head and/or skin. A cleaning station is off the water.