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Lilley's Lake Taneycomo fishing report, April, 2025
Phil Lilley posted a article in Taneycomo fishing reports
I waited until April 7th to write this report because of the big rain event we had over the weekend. I wanted to address how six inches of rain water would affect our fishery. Now I know. Beaver and Table Rock lakes rose several feet and both have crested. Now we know about how much water will run and for how long. Beaver rose from 1,121 to 1,127 feet, and its top of flood pool is 1,130 feet. Operators are not releasing water from Beaver yet. They usually hold Beaver until Table Rock can handle the extra water, or if the level reaches 1,130 feet. Table Rock rose from 914 to 919.9 feet. The power pool (normal) level is 915 feet right now. Operators are running 16,000 cubic feet per second (cfs.) Of that amount, 6,350 cfs is going through two turbines and the rest is coming over the top flood gates. There are two units down for maintenance. My guess is that 16,000 cfs will run until Table Rock is back down to 917 feet, when the flow will slow to 12,000 cfs. I don't know how long the turbines will be off-line. When we have these kind of flows, we want emphasize pointers for fishing on Lake Taneycomo. First, be extra careful when boating. Wear a life jacket. Watch your wake. Watch where you're drifting. Second, in fishing -- if you're drift fishing -- your bait has to be on the bottom. Fish are going to either be on the bottom, or along the banks or up in the creeks. All three places have one thing in common -- the water is slower in all three places. I visited with Guides Rick Lisek and Blake Wilson after their trips Monday. They both drifted scuds on the bottom and caught good numbers of rainbows. I watched Rick clean his clients' fish, and they were were packed full of scuds (freshwater shrimp.) You see, with this heavy flow, gravel starts rolling, dislodging the scuds and moving them downstream. Our trout always take advantage of this and pack their bellies with these high-protein bugs. That's why we're drifting scuds on the bottom. It's good fishing these from the dam clear down to our resort (Lilley's Landing.) We're using a 1/4-ounce bell weight to get the fly down; four-pound line is fine. Use either one or two flies about 24 inches apart. Number 10 or 12 scuds are the best, gray in color. Egg flies and San Juan Worms are also catching fish but not as good as scuds. If you're drifting down past our resort, I'd switch to Power Eggs or night crawlers and fish them on the bottom. Down at the Landing, you can fish with a jig-and-float using a 1/32nd-ounce pink or brown jig or a Berkley's Pink Power Worm on a jig hook. Before the rain, we were catching fish in the mouths of the creeks downtown, Turkey and Roark. While I haven't talked to anyone yet, typically trout will go up in the creeks when there's this much water running. They'll chase spoons and spinners, jigs and eat power bait on the bottom or on a jig hook under a float. We're still hoping for a school of threadfin shad to find their way over the dam and get pulled into our lake, but we have not heard of any yet. I've heard a few fish caught on white jigs but not many. They will hit a white jig, but until we see anything different, I'd throw a sculpin or black 1/8th-ounce jig and get it close to the bottom. -
Not munching yet. No shad. Caught one on a white jig, one on a sculpin jig. Blake's catching them on scuds real good. they're already fat but from scuds. Temp 48
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They opened 9 gates @ one foot each plus 2 units. Two units are down for maintenance. 15,000 cfs total.
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I thought maybe since we hardly got any rain today it may have changed the long range forecast but….. nope
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So this is only Saturday. That’s when we get the big rain.
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Your comments matter on here.... MDC is reading.
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It moved east but not much... First round about to hit here this morning.
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So it actually moved east alittle from this morning till now, away from us.
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I thought this would get some good discussion.... esp on this forum. May be I need to nudge Babler.
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Bull Shoals is going to get the brunt of this system. And Norfork. Hope it's gradual and not flash... we don't need the rivers to be washed out again.
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This is a link to an image that updates morning and evening every day. 7-day forecast. You can see we're on the line... west of TR dam, the forecast is for 5 inches + some. East is 7 inches to 12. It may move before Thursday, one way or the other. But I don't think Table Rock will get the full 12 inches. As dry as it is, I'd think 5 inches over the entire basin equals a 4 foot rise, or less. What concerns me is - what is coming after a big rain like this?... We (Taneycomo) are hoping for about a 6 foot rise so they open a few flood gates, as long as they don't get real crazy with it.
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KY3 saying 12 inches of rain... I'm hoping not.
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Water's been running the the am and off in the pm. I've seen some nice rainbows caught off the dock this week. I'll ask the crew what's been working.
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I chase them every year in March. Rumors of fish being caught here and there. It's early... and going early usually gets you no where. Tempted to go this evening to Swan Creek - heard crappie and whites are staging outside the mouth in the main lake. Some whites at the Pothole. It's early...
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It's live.... it shows what's running at that time, I believe. @dpitt
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Spring River OK February 27 report
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Spring & Neosho Rivers (OK)
Guess they got enough rain yesterday to bring the river up. Video taken at the 10c bridge at noon today by Paul Crews. IMG_1561.mov -
Spring River OK February 27 report
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Spring & Neosho Rivers (OK)
It's that time of year! -
Spring River OK February 27 report
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Spring & Neosho Rivers (OK)
I didn’t look at the ramp area but I would assume. If the ramp is useable. -
Spring River OK February 27 report
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Spring & Neosho Rivers (OK)
At twin bridges yes. But I’m not that familiar with the Neosho. -
Lilley's Lake Taneycomo fishing report, March 2025
Phil Lilley posted a article in Taneycomo fishing reports
Trout fishing on Lake Taneycomo has been fairly good this winter. With the extremely cold spells we have experienced, the water coming from Table Rock has plummeted to 41 degrees. That is pretty cold, even for trout. Fish tend to not feed as much when water temps drop into the low 40's. Even warm-water species like crappie and white bass, their bite is soft and slow. Trout can be the same. Patience is required. Our generation pattern has been pretty consistent. Most mornings, the water is running at a flow of between 5,000 and 8,000 cubic feet per second, or about two units, and lasts until about noon. Then we're getting some flow late in the evenings for a few hours. Table Rock's level is slightly below power pool, but we're expecting some rain at least in the first couple of weeks of March. With the water running, we're drifting and using a variety of flies, lures and baits. Below Fall Creek, minnows, night crawlers, the Berkley pink worm and Gulp Eggs are working. Adjust your weight to match the flow of water. If you're getting snagged a lot, use a smaller weight. But if you're not feeling the weight tick the bottom, add a small split shot. Early and late in the day, especially if the water is running, throw a Rapala or other suspending jerk bait. You might not catch many, but you have a good chance of enticing a trophy rainbow or brown. There are reports of crappie being caught at the Branson Landing around the fountains. They are moving around a lot, so a live scope is good to see them. If you don't have live scope, work from the fountains up lake with jigs and small swimming baits. When water is generating, drift an egg/scud combination from the dam through Short Creek. Using four-pound line is fine. for the size of scud, I've heard #16 is catching fish but I've also heard a #12 is, too. Use the colors of grey, olive or brown. Most of the time, our guides are putting the scud on the bottom, about 18 inches from the scud. Add the corresponding amount of weight to how much water is running. You can also drift a small jerk bait if more than two units are running. Take the front hooks off the bait and you won't get snagged on the bottom as much. Use a floating jerk bait, shallow running. -
Trout fishing on Lake Taneycomo has been fairly good this winter. With the extremely cold spells we have experienced, the water coming from Table Rock has plummeted to 41 degrees. That is pretty cold, even for trout. Fish tend to not feed as much when water temps drop into the low 40's. Even warm-water species like crappie and white bass, their bite is soft and slow. Trout can be the same. Patience is required. Our generation pattern has been pretty consistent. Most mornings, the water is running at a flow of between 5,000 and 8,000 cubic feet per second, or about two units, and lasts until about noon. Then we're getting some flow late in the evenings for a few hours. Table Rock's level is slightly below power pool, but we're expecting some rain at least in the first couple of weeks of March. With the water running, we're drifting and using a variety of flies, lures and baits. Below Fall Creek, minnows, night crawlers, the Berkley pink worm and Gulp Eggs are working. Adjust your weight to match the flow of water. If you're getting snagged a lot, use a smaller weight. But if you're not feeling the weight tick the bottom, add a small split shot. Early and late in the day, especially if the water is running, throw a Rapala or other suspending jerk bait. You might not catch many, but you have a good chance of enticing a trophy rainbow or brown. There are reports of crappie being caught at the Branson Landing around the fountains. They are moving around a lot, so a live scope is good to see them. If you don't have live scope, work from the fountains up lake with jigs and small swimming baits. When water is generating, drift an egg/scud combination from the dam through Short Creek. Using four-pound line is fine. for the size of scud, I've heard #16 is catching fish but I've also heard a #12 is, too. Use the colors of grey, olive or brown. Most of the time, our guides are putting the scud on the bottom, about 18 inches from the scud. Add the corresponding amount of weight to how much water is running. You can also drift a small jerk bait if more than two units are running. Take the front hooks off the bait and you won't get snagged on the bottom as much. Use a floating jerk bait, shallow running. View full article
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Paul Crews and I put in at Twin Bridges yesterday about 9:30 am and headed up Spring River. Water temp 46 most places. Water was stained - good color. Some wind later in the day but moderate. We started close to the old bridge piers and looked for crappie on trees. Didn't make any difference where - mid river, sides. They were everywhere. Slight current. 17-20 foot of water. We (Paul) picked up 7-8 keepers before moving on up to look for whites. Headed up to the docks and started above them. Whites everywhere! Every cast for a while. They were liking white... small rubber baits. 14 foot of water. Lots of 2+ pound fish, up to 2 3/4 pounds. One hybrid about 3 and this one at 8.15 pounds. We headed down looking for crappie again but couldn't keep the whites off the hook. Finally went back down where we started and added more keeper crappie to the limit. We ended up with 20 crappie and kept a few whites for the grill back at Paul's house. It was amazing to see all the whites on the live scope. We did go as far up as the highway 10 bridge and they were up there too.
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Still legal to coat felt soles with rubber cement?
Phil Lilley replied to Flyfisher for men's topic in Trout Talk
Back when they change the rule, I applied rubber cement to my felt sole boots. Granted, I don’t Wade very much but what I found out is at least wading Taneycomo with our gravel Is that either felt sole boots or rubber cement covered boots it makes it extremely difficult to walk. I feel like I’m going to twist an ankle. While the rubber cement has all but come off my boots now and I still wear them. Again, I don’t wade Taneycomo very much but when I do, I prefer my felt soles for my safety. -
You did better than most on Taney, at least yesterday. Heard it was on the slow side. Glad you got into them!
