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When I have asked MDC questions of this sort, they have always quoted the code and highlighted the applicable phrases then explained them; did your contact quote the code by section/paragraph? fwiw, the cut & paste I posted above is 3CSR 10-20.25.D https://www.sos.mo.gov/cmsimages/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3c10-20.pdf

It's the only water I've ever heard of that was restricted to bait. If I wanted to fish it with my fly rod I would, you can roll cast a worm (garden hackle) or fish a Trout Magnet just like you do any other jig/beadhead.

Since "soft plastic" specifically mentions "synthetic worms", I don't think "squirmy worms" are legal- but since they are allowed in international competitions that might cause a redefining or a change in regs. Using "any material except" xxx and "otherwise permanently fastened to the hook makes spoons flies. It certainly allows the use of rubber legs. With the use of spinning/casting tackle allowed (in fly only areas) and this very broad definition of fly, I see no reason to bother designating water as "fly only".

How much does the timing need to change as percent of ethanol increases? Can you give a rule of thumb for mechanical timing?

Trout don't get TSE. Elk got nothin to do with this conversation, I think you been spending too much time wit crazy Larry and it's rubbing off. Why pay for trout you aren't allowed to keep? Best thing carp has going is no possession limits.

Any inaccuracy in Pitot tube speed would not be in relative water speed nor relative airspeed if in an airplane; the key is relative water speed does not necessarily coincide with actual land speed, currents add to or take away from relative speeds when compared to surface travel or land speed.

She weren't prejudiced , she canned carp too. Why do you think storing food equates taking more than a daily limit? I would fish more often and eat way more fish if I could keep fish until there was a desire to eat fish or til there were enough fish to make meal for a whole family. As I said idiotic possession limits. Thou shall not keep fish more than one day. Subsistence and market hunting are at opposite ends of the conservation spectrum.

I don't believe anything was "designed for E10" prior to the late '80s or possibly in some instances the '90s, any thing using a computer to control mixture and timing should adapt to E10, but, a lot of that older motors still run can be made to run on alcohol, shoot in the war the French made cars run on wood smoke but they were not "designed" for that, and like smoke the alcohol will always give poor performance. A mechanical timing system will require re-curving and the carburetors may require re-kitting a couple times a year as the soft rubber parts deteriorate. In the late '80s Stihl (and others) would not honor the guarantee on a saw run with E10, not because the engine couldn't burn E10 but because the mix oils broke down so rapidly in alcohol leaving the engine with no lubrication and resulting in scored cylinder walls. And because the add heat from the E10 was more than some saws could take. My '85 Ford runs a little hot on E10 even with a radiator upgrade and bigger fan, fwiw trucks were kinda the last vehicles to be adapted as they were excluded from some of the early pollution requirements. If you look at when the manufacturers went to engine control modules and rail fuel injection you see about when the "designed for alcohol" transition took place. Early electronic ignitions and throttle body injection were kinda threshold of the transition. I assume boat engines like saws and other such lagged cars a bit. But I do agree that if it has been built or redone in this century it should be vodka compatible.

Starting at what date? My old F250 sure has a lot more carburetor problems with ethanol and the chainsaw guy said the saw failure was breakdown of the mix oil by ethanol. The new saw did have a sticker saying E10 was OK, but with a few caveats.

My aunt used to pressure can a hundred or two trout each summer in Idaho and used them in salmon patties all winter, thinking about that makes me hungry. Too bad we have idiotic possession limits that prevent such things.

My understanding is GPS is measuring land speed by incremental fixes and will be more accurate percentage wise at higher travel speeds. Pitot tubes measure relative movement between hull and water or air and give continuous or analog readings of that movement as speed. In other words they are measuring different speeds. Not having experimented with boats, my guess (based on effects of current on ships speed and gun bombardment ) is that across the lake the pitot analog should be very accurate and that going upstream it would show faster than actual speeds and going down stream it would show slower than actual speeds. I think the answer to the op question is "yes"- meaning that both are sometimes more accurate than at other times. At sea the GPS, checked against a sextant would be my choice, on river or lake I can't see it being of great importance- never far from shore and land marks.

How does that work with current?

y'all be careful there

Added as krill oil to the food. no mention of liver, probably the ill taste comes from soy and canola replacing fish oils in some formulations.

Electrification brought with it Disney and anthropomorphism, TV has made most people animal worshipers that believe Bambi and Rocky and Bullwinkle to be human or human like in ability to think, have emotions and feel pain. These people deny the connection between roast and cows or between fried chicken and live birds. They reinforce this denial by not butchering and thereby witnessing the transition, even buying at a supermarket whole chickens sell to fewer people than fully cut up skinless boneless chicken because the resemblance of the whole chicken to a bird is far greater than that of the fillets. Whole fish vs fillet is about the same. I think that a reason for eating out often and for buying fully prepared meats, as well as veganism is to distance oneself from the conversion of live animals to food. Almost everyone I have met who grew up with television has this anthropomorphic tendency to some extent, most often not even realizing why they treat dogs as people or don't go hunting. To some extent the lack of access also lies with television, America is no longer made up of communities of people that know each other and through familiarity have a degree of trust; TV has broken the communities by keeping people at home where they never become acquainted with the people next door or in the next block- this unfamiliarity breeds distrust and this distrust is increased/reinforced by the TV constantly showing news programs that focus on the evil acts of other people and movies that stress various forms of robbery and violence. The outcome of this is Fear. Landowners become fearful that "trespassers" may rob them or cause them harm and the average person looking for a place to hunt is fearful of knocking on doors to ask permission. Fear is so prevalent that people meeting in public places like the trout parks or WalMarts don't usually even make eye contact and very rarely exchange friendly greetings. One fear landowners have is that people they don't even know can get hurt on the land and sue the landowner, a thing that was unheard of when I was growing up in the '50s. The other side of lack of access is the success of corporate farming and the subsequent loss of small farms. Large corporations that own much of the land don't have doors to knock on and in many or most cases don't have anyone with authority to grant permission to hunt. We won't go back so wildlife managers will have to learn new ways to control the numbers while keeping the control methods somewhat hidden from the Disney watching public. Professional hunters and trappers are employed by farmers and governments in most of the lower 48 now and will bear more of the control work load in the future. Loss of hunting as a sport won't have much other effect on the general public. Sport hunting by the masses has only existed in the USA since the end of WW2 and has never existed in most other countries.

yep

Works in the creek too if you can get by the riffles, in low water he'd wade and tow over those.

Kinda describe fishing too. I've noticed far fewer young anglers on the creeks for several years now. Land access, fear of trespassers ( I was 10 or 11 the first time I ever saw a no trespassing sign in the country), my-ness- land, water, deer, fish, air, etc.- and anthropomorphizing all play a part, but so does the whole electrification of America. Electricity has provided with heat in winter and cool in summer and artificial entertainment 24-7-365, we can keep ready to eat food and cool drinks at all times and for unlimited times. The youngins never get bored enough to go outside in the uncomfortable atmosphere.

115# says it all, imo Actually, if you're young and strong and can drive near the water, that is manageable. The boat reminds me a lot of one of those pond boats from the '90s. Bass Prowler or something- there used to be a fellow that fished the Elk drainage with a 8' or 10' one of those that fit in the bed of his pickup. Semi pontoon thing, looked kinda like a pedal boat in a park, his method was to use a trolling motor up and drift back. it worked for him and over the 4-5 year period I saw him he occasionally had another fellow with him. His boat needed over a foot of water and I'd guess that one does too. I'd also guess that boat doesn't paddle very well for the reasons above, but you have pole, trolling motor, possibly oars as options too.

I never looked it up but some years ago I was told by some one in that organization that I should get all the land owner tags available to the whole family because they all are considered "sold" for P-R money purposes. Unless that has changed this increase in acreage is going to be a net loss to MDC and by extension to all of us. Sold = issued. I believe the old regs did call for more land than has been required since the big herd downsizing began, it might have been 75A. I know a 1/4 section only got one buck tag for all the seasons put together. What ever caused the antlerless tags changed everything including land requirement.

It's only been around penned deer that long not in the wild herd until recently. Koolaid isn't good for you either.

Well, we ain't never going to get out of this alive anyway, pass them eggs and brains. I've been reading about this for a couple/three decades now and I think it is much more serious than any of the responsible agencies are letting on, the facts are that we can do nothing to stop or prevent the spread of transmissible spongiform encephalitis, regardless of species involved. The proteins are indestructible and last a very long time in the food cycle, sloughed off by "infected" animals and stays in the dirt for undetermined time spans, can be taken up by plants as they grow and introduced into new animals years later, can be eaten from dead animals by scavengers and passed out later miles away in waste to again be taken up in plants and etc. We can not yet undo the genetic mutations that are involved. Most of the past studies have been useless because they had no starting point, no understanding of what to look for or what to study. I think that will change in upcoming studies. If and when funds are made available. Comparison to cancer research is apt, they still aren't quite sure what to look for in cancer either. Finding answers with unclear questions is never going to be quick. Now, even though I think this is more serious a problem than is recognized, I don't see a reason for panic or hysteria, most areas have too many whitetails and too many humans already anyway and some loss of either won't endanger the species. Once or if the new human prion disease become well established (it won't be CJD because it will be a cross species jump with some differences) there will be not only more interest in finding answers, but, there will be humans to test, or sample genetic data from. I suspect given the long association of humans and scrapie sheep/goats that at least some humans have a resistance system.

I believe that.

Do you eat brains?

I gotta admit that is kinda out there, I think the point he is trying to make is that it might take a long time between exposure to CWD you developing the dementia or CJD or kuru, long enough that no one is apt to point out that deer you ate in camp 10-12 years ago, or the mutton stew you had at Aunt Aggie's, as being the cause of your illness, if they even make a diagnoses of CJD. There is really no way of knowing if your late friend or relative with dementia had prions or not. Not a standard thing to cut off the neck of people and send it for testing. The disease may be more common than we think- or not. Bunch of oldies like you all shouldn't get excited or worry about it any how, with ten year or twenty year incubation we might all pass on of other causes before the CJD sets in. Pass that neck roast. Nearer the bone, sweeter the meat.