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It starts when you catch the fish, within a minute break the throat latch, break the neck and pull out the gills. The trout is then to be kept cool in a creel or cooler until gutted and cooked, preferably with an hour or three. (fish and visitors begin to stink in three hours, eh?) Leave the skin intact, may roll in coarse cornmeal to keep skin from sticking to skillet, season well inside with salt, black pepper and herbs of choice, put butter in the cavity and skillet/griddle fry til the skin blisters off then turn and do the other side. At this point the meat should be flaking off the bones; squeeze lemon over the meat or give it a dash of balsamic vinegar. Treat the skin as a bone. You can use foil to wrap and bake or cook in microwave but frying allows you to see when the cooking is done. Trout suffers from over cooking. I have never eaten good trout that have been kept alive on a stringer, skinned or filleted. If you stress a hog for an hour or two then suffocate it to death the bacon will taste bad too. If you skin a chicken before cooking 90% of the flavor is lost. wrench's suggestion of being far from the hatchery is more important in the sense of time than in distance, they can haul fish a long ways. Time away from the growing pellets and a diet of stream food will modify the taste more than miles of highway. After you eat enough fish you will recognize by color tones the ones fresh from the feeder and those that live on insects. They will also taste better if caught and cooked before you eat anything else that day, catch at dawn and make them for breakfast within the hour.

Scrapie in sheep and goats has been studied since 1732 and we still don't know a lot about it, yet people still eat mutton and goat. One of the factors that make it difficult to determine causes is the long incubation period of these diseases; if you are exposed today and it takes 4-5 years to get sick from it, will you recall the very meal or event at which the exposure took place? How many thousands/millions of people have already died from prion disease that were just listed as death from natural causes? We don't have a clue because no one normally tests for prions. Prion disease can be hereditary as in Fatal Familial Insomnia and prions may be the cause of Alzheimer and Parkinson's. More often cannibalism is involved as kuru or the feeding of sheep protein to the mad cows. Science is better today than it ever has been and DNA work has determined where the gene responsible for making prions is located, so there is progress/hope.

I'd quit taking the paper too if it published that guy's stuff.

yeah, yeah, but from the manufacturer; https://www.lifetime.com/lifetime-90818-tamarack-angler-100-fishing-kayak

Three datums are used for sea level that vary by 1.13' so if using different datum the results could vary that much. So, from the dam to a far (say 50 miles) away back water the water will the level be the same?

Would a gauge on the Osage at Rt7 Warsaw have the same level as the lake? USGS has one there and if my math is right the current reading is 662.6 or 663.7 depending on which sea level datum is used, which by the way might account for the reporting differences.

Is it olive or tan?

Banning tournaments would be a start, enforcing wanton waste laws couldn't hurt. Unpopular truth is that as long as we allow tournament taking of fish we can not call ourselves conservationists at all. I don't really believe all Mocarp's dumpsters of fish are filled by Mo. bow fishers, but contests obviously generate more pressure on a fishery than killing all you can eat does, the bass relocation that comes up so often would mostly end with the end of tournaments. The problem lies in the money that such contests create. Conservation and monetary contests don't exist together. I'm visualizing all these guys in head gear playing virtual fishing games with virtual boats that exceed the speed of sound and bows that shoot 100' deep killing and relocating thousands of virtual bass and carp. It still won't matter if the dams and/or other environmental issues have prevented recruitment for 80 years as suggested, we probably can't do anything to save the species at this late date. We probably won't even figure out the cause before the existing fish are too old to reproduce.

Ethanol is about the cheapest octane booster out there, at this time and even if the mandate were removed today the gas companies would still use it, that too might change. The Feds pump money into the economy in a lot of ways and corn/vodka is just one.

So he is controlling access just much as my neighbor who will prosecute. The law is the public has no right to access and in the past, we have just always had landowners that were easy. If we carried out the trash we made would you want ten or twenty strangers to camp out in your yard? These creeks/rivers are not public, in any manner. The case law relating to stream use in Mo requires each stream to be judged on it's own, meaning that until some one takes each steam through a trespass action all the way to the Mo Supreme Court the streams are blocked. Even if MDC or another agency provides an ramp to the water only that MDC owned area is truly public access. Up or down stream we can't technically get out of the boat.

Not "we", most often the cars containing those types had out of state tags. That doesn't help much when the law is the ground under the water is privately owned, and prosecutors are willing to press charges for one foot out of the water.

State needs to address access and public use of the streams, the current and historical case law is going to cause more closure of access until it is all pay to use. A new sign near me advising that if you or your boat are on the gravel bar the sheriff will be called and charges of trespass pressed. Many of the closures here were instigated by the canoe rental companies several years ago, all the state and county bridges that used to have row access to the creeks have been blocked and/or posted no parking. One landowner with primitive camping (at what used to be a free access) has signs that the creek bordering him is C&R only. I think that the Elk and all three tributaries now have a total of 7 legal accesses for the public. Even the church parking lot on Indian creek has "No Trespassing' signs.

so three altogether? I'm not opposed to setting regulations for carp exactly, but there are thousands of native species that need protecting first. Carp are not in any danger of being extirpated soon, so, they can continue on the back burner so to speak. I am strongly opposed to adding or changing any regulations based on the money generated or the popularity of the change. Some solid science showing how carp management would help the recovery of native species would be of interest. I am also somewhat opposed to copying the EU community in any fashion or subject; the whole purpose of starting a new country 243 years ago was to be rid of EU values and mores. Those people have always cost America. I am perfectly willing to allow anyone wanting to emulate Europeans to emigrate there, in fact it would be a good thing.

How many??

Where was all this forest in 1818? ( Schoolcraft's trip) ( and a thousand years after the erosion of the Ozark mountains) They sprayed a lot of brush and new growth with airplanes after the war up into the '60s- I never heard of or saw any forest sprayed because there never was forest here. Tie logs and firewood trees are young stuff. When hand cutting and hewing ties they only cut trees that were just barely big enough to square up tie size.

The guy that used to own the trucks 'round here said the proprietary additives were added at the station, this allowed him to deliver Phillips gas and Conoco out of the same load, but if you guys are right and the stuff comes straight from the pipeline, that takes the corn out of the equation and we must have a large ethanol deposit in Texas or Kuwait that gets mined right along with the rest of the crude. It'd also mean that all that premium gas is 87 octane or that all that 87 octane gas is really 91 octane. Diesel is the same as gasoline, just costs thirty cents a gallon more... homogeneous, yep So what did they used to do to get the ethanol out of gas back in the '50s?

Yet when Henry Schoolcraft explored the Ozarks he had to use pack horses to carry camp fire wood because it was often more than a days travel between trees. Grandpa's description of the SW corner of the state from ~1900 was what he called "prairie" but by our standards was savanna; this area that was mostly treeless in his youth has been logged constantly during my life time. It was mostly after white settlement that trees grew. Wild fire prevention killed our grasslands here.

I don't remember it being logged, but I had fun fishing it and the grand for a couple years in my high school years. I guess that is where I learned to fish. No way to grow crops on a lake nor to visit the historic family farms, nor the cemeteries. No way for birds and bats to nest in inundated bluffs. no way for fish or eels to migrate to head waters. Man made river lakes are just fundamentally wrong, but we won't realize that as a nation for another century or two.

Any stretch of river is better than any sized lake.

I've been wondering that myself, since about 1960. Beaver lake was another nice river system back then.

Any dam can fail, i always think of Teton in Idaho when talking about how unlikely failure is. Thoughts on down stream dams is that they are designed to pass water from huge storms, but if at maximum flow during a storm event an upstream failure would be more than could be passed and once over flow starts, the face and the base support erode rapidly. I believe Bagnell and Powersite dams were both built by private entities prior too the current dam safety regulations based on many failures in the '70s, neither was designed as a flood control dam so both could be a risk in the case of an upstream event. I also think the CoE spend a lot of money playing cya. A cry out about potential fail could bring $millions into their budget. I don't anticipate any failures soon.

I used to fish the bottom of that pond when it was rivers and creeks, the consensus of people I knew back then was all anti Kaysinger Dam and only the name change got it approved. There were annual or perpetual campaigns against it. Wasn't old enough to vote, but seem to recall ballot issues relating to Kaysinger. My uncle at Clinton fought them in Courts for years over compensation for his farm, that as far as I know has never been near the water, but they took. I grew up with the notion that Truman himself opposed that Dam, after they named it for him I'm not sure now. Left Warsaw in '68 and haven't really been back since, more than passing through. If it fails, i suppose it would take out Bagnell also and as mentioned be a tremendous boon to the local economy til the cleanup was over. Do you all think either or both dams would be rebuilt?

Zonker olive or black

yep, every 24 hours it does it again. Axis is ~23.5* off of vertical, kinda like a drinker, but we haven't fallen over yet.