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one of the strange habits of euro carpers is most weigh their fish on certified quality scales such as a Ruben Heaton brand usally cost around $135 plus bells and whistles the 1st fish was caught durring the Missouri CAGI and weighed spot on 14 pounds and was right at 34 " long The fish below was taken in Town Lake in Austin Texas this past April was 43 plus pounds --this fish set a Texas State Record and won $250,000 for the Denton Texas lad This is the World Record Taken In Europe and was 82 Plus Pounds!
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There are many occurances of warm drought conditions causing the clammy filter feeders die off in droves--they no likee the hot water!!! MO
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We had a carp wing ding "cagi" Saturday night on the 'shoals and carp normally make long hard runs, but for some reason we got a LOT of cut offs--Jim suspects line cut off from the zebras "like barnicals" attach to everything and will cut line if its rubbed against, those that fish carp in places with zebras have the same thing happen...we never have had it happen before--if the low water allowed the buggers to get a foot hold because not enough carp where there in numbers to slow the spread "carp eat them big time" see the below study sgnis.org/publicat/papers/tucker3.pdf Predation on zebra mussels (Dreissena polymorpha) by common carp (Cyprinus carpio) John K. Tucker, Frederick A. Cronin, Dirk W. Soergel Long Term Resources Monitoring Program Pool 26 Illinois Natural History Survey 4134 Alby Street Alton, Illinois 62002 USA and Charles H. Theiling Ecological Specialists, Inc. 114 Algana Ct. St. Peters, Missouri 63376, USA ABSTRACT We examined the gut contents of 31 common carp (Cyprinus carpio) collected at Mississippi River Mile 217 in August 1995 for evidence of predation on zebra mussels (Dreissena polymorpha). We found between 1 and 407 zebra mussel beaks in 83.9% of the fish we examined. For all fish examined, common carp contained 118.2 beaks per fish or about 59 zebra mussels per fish. The survey did not indicate that larger fish consumed more zebra mussels than smaller fish. Estimated valve length for zebra mussels consumed ranged from 1.48 to 42.52 mm with a mean 11.79 mm (SE = 0.10 mm). We found that larger fish tended to prey on larger zebra mussels than did smaller fish. The general size range of zebra mussels consumed by common carp overlapped the upper portion of the size range of young-of-the-year zebra mussels living at the site and the lower portion of the size range of older zebra mussels living at the site. INTRODUCTION The zebra mussel (Dreissena polymorpha) is a recent invader of the Great Lakes and Mississippi River. These mussels attach to available hard substrates using byssal threads (Eckroat et al. 1993). They filter large quantities of water for the food and compete with other molluscs for space and food. Zebra mussels can form dense aggregations on unionid mussels. Page 2 These aggregations have led to decreased unionid density (Gillis and Mackie 1994, Nalepa 1994) or even to complete extirpation of unionid faunas (Schloesser and Nalepa 1994). Zebra mussels may also have adverse effects on other molluscs (Tucker 1994a) and other invertebrates (Tucker and Camerer 1994, but see Stewart and Haynes 1994). Despite their adverse effects on other molluscs, zebra mussels have become an abundant potential food for several species of diving ducks in Lake Erie (Hamilton et al. 1994) just as they are in Europe (Sta_czykowska 1977, Sta_czykowska et al. 1990). Smaller zebra mussels (shell length d8 mm) are also preyed upon by crayfish in the laboratory and possibly in nature (Love and Savino 1993, MacIsaac 1994, Martin and Corkum 1994). A number of fish species are known to feed on zebra mussels in Europe including the bream, Abramis brama (Budzy_ska et al. 1956), the common carp, Cyprinus carpio (Ivlev 1961, Stein et al. 1975), the pumpkinseed, Lepomus gibbosus (Spataru 1967), the European roach, Rutilus rutilus (Budzy_ska et al. 1956, Prejs 1973, Olszewski 1978, Prejs et al. 1990), and the eel, Anguilla anguilla (De Nie 1982). Several North American fishes are known or thought to be capable of preying on zebra mussels (French 1993). However, only one North American fish, the freshwater drum (Aplodinotus grunniens), has been shown to be a significant predator on zebra mussels in nature (French and Bur 1993). Although common carp are known to prey on zebra mussels when other preferred prey are unavailable (e.g., Stein et al. 1975), there is little published information regarding routine consumption of zebra mussels by carp in the United States. Thus, the purpose of this survey was to document utilization of zebra mussels by the common carp.
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"macfish's" new personal best a 14 pounder on the mat Nice fish, most folks call fish like this a 20 pounder, it takes a heck of a fish to hit 20 our Jr winner with a 9 pounder Forrest Moret Forrest you have a run Forrest a RUN FORREST RUN "he hated that " Here his Gramps fishing buddy Steve with another good fish Cheers Mo
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At a tourney all fish are released, as a group we encourage the catch and release of Trophy sized carp to grow and get bigger. Most folks say a carp is a trophy at 20 pounds, some of our members do keep and eat smaller carp. it takes decades for a common carp to reach 20 pounds, many times you will recapture big fish over and over usally a bit bigger each time. our groups goals are as listed below • Gain acceptance of the carp as an exciting and challenging sportfish. • Become better carp anglers, assist others and encourage them to join us. • Treat the carp with respect. Promote the release of trophy-size carp. Encourage others to do the same. • Most of all: go fishing, share with others, and have fun! In the fishes of Missouri by William L Pflieger; “carp adults AVERAGE are from 1lbs @12” long to 8lbs @ 25 “ long. The grow rates are listed as 6.5” by the end of 12 months life, 11” at the end of 2 years, 14.2” @ 3 years, 16.7”@ 4 years 18”@ 5 years. Typical weights are a 12 inch carp will average 1lbs & a 21.5” will average 5 lbs Few live longer than 12 years in the wild” Cheers Mo
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we have only carp fished the first 3 miles of bull shoals "white river" from the dam down I am sure other properly chummed spots on 'shoals would be as good, just have not tried them yet... A peg is your random drawn fishing spot... you must fish there and there alone in a tourney--(some rules allow moves) you are in shouting and visit distance from thew other pegs We will have another fish in soon--you should give it a try some time Cheers Mo
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We had the first CAGI on Bullshoals this past Saturday and the fishing was HOT, many guys banked more fish in one day here than they have at ANY tourney, size was a bit down with lots of fish 7-9 pounds--in stead of the 15-16 avg we normally see,...the fish were really spunky.. many lost fish, due to the tough fight the 'shoals carp are known for, with some help this spot could be a nationally known carp vacation like Town Lake in Texas and The St Laurence in Waddington, New York a big thanks to all that came, To the Carp Anglers Group Invitational, particularly Silas Grey an outdoor writer for The Joplin Globe, he caught 2 fish his biggest a 11 1/2 pounder Dave Moore from Bartlesville OK took top with 26 fish for first place edging, Harold Brown from St Louis, MO took big 4 and big fish with a 14 & 1/2 pounder, total fish caught should place Missouri in 2nd as far as National Standings We had several folks in the high double digits for total fish caught. EVERYONE LANDED FISH --NO BLANKS!!!! lots of lost fish the totals should have been much much higher-- 3 mirrors where also caught-- Plans for a 24 hour event for big prize money have been started for next year!! Special Thanks to Jim Milham for helping make this event a Success. Cheers Mo
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No! this site is great as a fishing only--if it isn't broke .... its nice to have a fishing only site--hunting will just add to clutter JMHO MO
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I have a spot on Stockton that could hold 50 bank-fisherman--we Carp fish mostly, but catch quite a few channel cats, nice thing its very open and always a breeze to keep the bugs off--we had a fish in last Summer and it was a blast there--not much on eating carp, but the cats are good "weenee roast " any ways Me and my CAG buds could bait it up over a couple of weeks Mo
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Hair Rigs --the business end on euro gear
MoCarp replied to MoCarp's topic in General Angling Discussion Archives
That is the best way or you spend 30 minutes getting a hook in the water Yes you can, the no knot is a very strong knot...there are a bazillion little tweaks one can do with a hair rig, but those usally are for huge carp that are old and very hook smart, Trout (rainbows) I hate to say are pretty stupid compaired to a big carp. the bait on the hair should be a 1/4 " from the hook no more no less, you will have to have a longer hair for more eggs a small swivel and a running rig with a bobber stop 2 foot above the weight you need a rubber bead to protect the knot... they are cheap soft and black, also use a painted slip sinker or spray with wd 40 to dull the shine--rub dirt to get it off before you put it in water the eggs float, you may find ajusting how far above bottom, may be critical in getting bites, experiment with hook links and look up pop up rigs then you will see ehat I mean " the use of a shot to restrict floating height" Good Luck Mo -
Use a hair rig --you will be surprized on how much it works on carp, taps turn into fish Mo
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Here are a few pics on fish taken at the Fish in locations fish run 8-to over 20 pounds with fish avg around 12 pounds--fish here are stronger than your avg carp, and will make several long sizzling runs (set those drags folks)
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http://www.carpanglersgroup.com/forum/inde...showtopic=15411 Carp Anglers Group Invitationals: June 24, 2006 We will have on the same day simultaneous fish-ins in multiple regional venues across North America, all following the same rules and have an opportunity to invite guests to this national event. Contact the CAGI Missouri coordinator ( ME!!!!), I will answer any question you might have. A fee of $10 per angler (CAG member or guest) will be requested. CAG members are exempted from the $10 fee if they come with guests, usally the inviting member allows the guest to fish free (will have a big fish pot) Regional awards are based on weights of carp captured in a given regional event: • Big Fish • Top 4 • Total Weight National awards are based on the combined results of all regional events, based on a handicap system to create a reasonable fairness between venues. Juniors will have their own awards category. • Big Fish (adjusted based on venue handicap) • Top 4 (adjusted based on venue handicap) • Total Weight (adjusted based on venue handicap) • Biggest carp on a Scooby Doo rod (exact weight) • Biggest carp on a fly (exact weight) Awards Two of the CAG national winners will receive an Aquavu Scout XL. Many thanks to Cory Schmidt from Nature Vision . . American Carp Society contributed 3 DVDs (one town lake, 2 carp 101) for each venue, hence for each regional winner. Special thanks to Wayne Boon here. 2. Dick's Sporting Goods contributed various discount coupons. Thanks, Dick, whoever you are. 3. Best junior guest (total-weight) will have a promotional CAG membership, as well as regional winner if (senior) guest. 4. Some regional venues have additional regional sponsors (e.g. Red Demon for NYS, Shimano Canada for ONT, etc), but I don't have the details. National awards In addition to the customary trophies, the cameras, and free CCC entries: 1. Academy (a sport's store) contributed a $100 gift certificate. We'll try to make sure to give it to somebody in a state where this chain of stores exists! Thanks to Neil who negotiated this one. 2. Concept for You has a LOT of boilies, dips for the various winners. 3. Columbia Sportswear sent me a a nice fishing vest, and a hat. 4. Dick's Sporting Goods contributed three gift certificates ($50, $25, $25) 5. Still have to decide for the goofy award... I still have a couple of ongoing requests, but we'll see... Getting tough to line up sponsors those days, more and more events! It's good, actually. I will wait until the day before the event before assigning prizes to specific awards, just in case we get a last-minute sponsor. Many thanks for all those sponsors, and good luck to everybody. More details about Concept For You prizes: (2) extra large t-shirts (1) medium t-shirt & baseball hat (good for a youth prize?) (1) 2 kilo bucket of "NEW" pineapple 20mm boilies (1) 2 kilo bucket of "NEW" tutti banana 20mm boilies (1) 2 kilo bucket of "NEW" strawberry cream 20mm boilies (1) jar of "NEW" pineapple dip (1) jar of "NEW" tutti banana dip (1) jar of "NEW" strawberry cream dip (1) container of "NEW" pineapple "Slimy" (1) container of "NEW" tutti banana "Slimy" (1) container of "NEW" strawberry cream "Slimy" (1) Stimulator kit (1 kilo 20mm boilies, 1 bottle of stimulator liquid, 1 container Slimy) What is a FISH IN?????????????????????????? 1. Introduction & General Concept The Carp Anglers Group Invitational (CAGI) was created in 2003 by David Moore, then CAG president. In June of 2003, 48 carp anglers fished in 5 venues across 5 states. In 2004, the CAGI second edition included 101 participants across 7 venues/states, institutionalizing the CAGI as a classic national carp angling event. In 2005, the 3rd edition included an impressive 185 participants across 10 venues/states. The main concept is to have on the same day simultaneous fish-ins in multiple regional venues across North America, all following the same rules. This type of national event allows CAG members that could neither attend Austin (the ATC) or Chicago (the CCC) to participate in an “official CAG event”. A handicap system compensates for the different average sizes of carp being caught in the various waters, thus enabling national awards in addition to regional (per venue) awards. Young anglers are especially welcome, and can win junior awards. And everybody can test their special skills at the “Scooby Doo” challenge or the “Fly-Fishing” challenge. In addition to being a friendly event with many participants across North America, the CAGI also offers a great opportunity to meet and fish with other anglers from the same region, to invite guests (non CAG members) to participate and learn about our favorite hobby, and to create curiosity and interest about what is happening in the other regions. The CAGI is scheduled on the last Saturday of June as a ten (10) hours fish-in. In 2006, this will be June 24th (mark your calendar!). Regional prizes are handed out right after the event. CAGI official results are published on the Internet in July and in the NACA early September. The CAGI national prizes are handed out during the CAG annual meeting in Chicago end of September. 2 How to participate To participate, you must be either a CAG member or be invited as a guest by a CAG member. CAG members may participate in any regional event, not necessarily the region where he/she resides. CAG members must register to the event (and also register their guests). A Web-based registration process is available on the CAG Web site, and is the preferred registration mechanism. Otherwise, please send an e-mail to the CAGI coordinator. CAGI Registration Registration needs to occur before the event; most venues have limited space, and it will greatly simplify the life of the regional organizer to know the number of participants in advance. Still, last-minute on-site registration may be accepted as space allows. Regional organizers are CAG volunteers taking care of the logistics of organizing the regional CAGI event in an appropriate venue. Be nice with them, organizing such an event is a lot of work… You can find the list of currently planned CAGI venues and corresponding regional organizers on the CAG Web site in the list of CAG fish-ins scheduled for end of June. Fish-Ins You can also contact the CAGI coordinator (Jerome Moisand), who will be happy to redirect you to the appropriate regional organizer and answer any question you might have about the CAGI. To contact Jerome, e-mail is the best way. A fee of $10 per angler (CAG member or guest) will be requested. The fee can be prepaid when registering online (via Paypal), or it can be paid on-site to the regional organizer. CAG members are exempted from the $10 fee if they come with one guest or more (but guests have to pay their own fee). CAG members can come with multiple guests. 3 Regional awards Regional awards are based on weights of carp captured in a given regional event. Regional winners are determined right after the end of the event, and prizes are handed out to first, second, and third place in each category. Depending on regional venues, a social event of some sort (e.g. dinner, picnic, outing, etc) may complement the “award ceremony”. If a guest (non CAG member) wins one of the regional awards (1st place), he/she will receive a free one-year CAG membership. 3.1 Regional “Total Weight” award This award goes to the angler with the highest total weight of carp in the regional event. Tiebreaker: largest carp, next largest, etc. If tie persists, time of capture of the largest carp (earliest wins). 3.2 Regional “Top 4” award This award goes to the angler with the highest total weight of the four (4) biggest carp in the regional event. Tiebreaker: largest carp, next largest, etc. If tie persists, time of capture of the largest carp (earliest wins). 3.3 Regional “Big Fish” award This award goes to the angler with the largest carp in the regional event. Tiebreaker: next largest carp, etc. If tie persists, time of capture of the largest carp (earliest wins). 4 National awards National awards are based on the combined results of all regional events, using a handicap system to create a reasonable fairness between venues (not all waters have 30 or 40 pounders ready to be caught!). Special categories are defined for juniors (17 years-old or less), but they are eligible to all awards. National awards are reserved for CAG members and juniors. Adult guests are not eligible for national awards. National winners (first, second, and third place for each category) are determined by the CAGI coordinator after tallying the results of all regional events. National results will be published on the Internet (and communicated to regional organizers) as soon as possible in July. A “CAGI national awards ceremony” will occur during the annual CAG meeting in Chicago, after the Chicago Carp Classic (CCC). CAGI winners are kindly invited to come to Chicago, but if they can’t come, we’ll make sure they receive their prizes. CCC organizers gracefully agreed to offer a free participation to the CCC for CAGI national winners (first places only). 4.1 Handicap system To qualify for national awards, a regional venue must fulfill two criteria: • At least 8 anglers must have participated • More carp than anglers must have been caught If a venue qualifies, a venue handicap is calculated for each category (total weight, top-4, big fish), based on the carp caught during the event: Venue Handicap = Nation-wide average weight / Venue average weight Based on such venue handicaps, adjusted weights are then calculated as: Adjusted weight = Actual weight * Venue Handicap 4.2 National “Total Weight” award – Junior and Senior The award goes to the angler with the highest adjusted total weight of carp, across all venues. Tiebreaker: largest carp (adjusted weight), next largest, etc. If tie persists, joint winners. 4.3 National “Top 4” award – Junior and Senior The award goes to the angler with the highest adjusted total weight of the four (4) biggest carp, across all venues. Tiebreaker: largest carp (adjusted weight), next largest, etc. If tie persists, joint winners. 4.4 National “Big Fish” award – Junior and Senior The award goes to the angler with the largest carp (adjusted weight) across all venues. Tiebreaker: next largest carp (adjusted weight), etc. If tie persists, joint winners. 4.5 National “Goofy picture” award The award goes to the angler having submitted the goofiest picture. The picture may or may not include a fish, but has to include the goofy angler. Find your inner child deep inside, and get silly! A panel of judges (e.g. CAGI regional organizers, presided by the CAGI coordinator) will assess the “goofiness” of all submitted pictures, and will vote. Pictures must stay in the realm of decency to be selected. Pictures must be sent to the CAGI coordinator by e-mail or postal mail and received no later than July 14th. Tiebreaker: vote again. And again. Until we get a clear winner! 4.6 Special “Scooby Doo” challenge If agreed upon with the regional organizer, participants may use a 3 feet “Scooby Doo” rod and try to catch a carp with it. Beware, this is quite challenging! A Scooby Doo rod must be used in its original set-up, including the (thin and short!) monofilament line, the low quality reel, etc. Barbie rods, Minnie Mouse rods, Sponge Bob rods or other similar variations are also allowed. Regular carp bait and (safe) terminal rigs can be used; one may want to try with a Scooby Doo snack on a hair rig! ) This award goes to the angler with the largest carp (exact weight, no adjustment). To qualify for this award, a picture of the angler with the rod and the carp is required. Tiebreaker: largest carp, next largest, etc. If tie persists, time of capture of the largest carp (earliest wins). Note: carp caught for the Scooby Doo Challenge do count for the other awards. 4.7 Special “Fly-Fishing” Challenge *** NEW IN 2006 *** If agreed upon with the regional organizer, participants may use a fly-fishing rod, line and reel and try to catch a carp with it. The fly has to be unscented and unbaited. This award goes to the angler with the largest carp (exact weight, no adjustment) caught using fly-fishing gear. To qualify for this award, a picture of the angler with the rod and the carp is required. Tiebreaker: largest carp, next largest, etc. If tie persists, time of capture of the largest carp (earliest wins). Note: carp caught for the Fly-Fishing Challenge do count for the other awards. 5 Logistics & Schedule The fish-in itself will last 10 hours. The typical schedule will be the following (this may be changed by the regional organizer, so ask to be sure! Some venues may choose to have a 10 hours night-fishing session, for example): • Participants gather around 6:00PM; take some time to explore the venue • Participants fees are collected by the regional organizer • Participants scales are checked for accuracy against a calibration weight o Not everybody needs to bring a precise scale, one for 2 or 3 anglers is usually enough • The peg draw occurs around 7:30PM; here is the typical procedure: o CAG members draw a peg first, before guests o CAG members may pre-empt the peg on their right side or left side for one of their guests, if the peg has not been drawn yet o Then remaining guests draw their peg • Once the peg is known, participants get a scorecard, then can go to their peg right away and start plumbing or pre-baiting • Fish-in from 9PM to 7AM (local time) o From 9PM to 11PM, participants have to stay in their peg o Starting from 11PM, participants are allowed to move to another (non occupied) peg, or to a swim where they don’t interfere with other anglers*** o ***A participant has to stay at shouting distance from another participant • Participants gather around 8:OOAM to submit their scorecard with their results AT THE LONGHORN RESTAURANT where breakfast buffet is provided at no charge. o Please report it in any case, even if you didn’t catch anything • A couple of group pictures of all participants are taken, plus pics of winners • Regional results are computed by the regional organizer and double-checked by a participant/helper • Regional awards ceremony occurs, possibly combined with a social event of some sort • some regional organizers will have an informal fish-in (same venue or different venue) as an extra-activity for CAGI participants. Check on it! 6 More rules… Regional organizers will be the judges if a participant breaks a rule. If this happens, the participant may be disqualified for regional and national awards. Every participant must follow the following set of rules: • Two rods per angler o An additional rod may be used for spodding o Special rods used for the Scooby Doo or the Fly-Fishing challenge count towards the two-rod allotment • One hook per line, no double or treble hook • Foul hooked fish will not count o Hook needs to be within one inch from the mouth area • Fish may be sacked if strictly necessary • The carp has to be weighed by a witness, and related information reported on the scorecard. Neighbor participant or stewards (e.g. regional organizer or helper) can act as witness. • Only Cyprinus Carpio counts (common, mirror, leather, koi). • Smartcast, plumbing, bait boats and any fancy equipment or baiting method is allowed. • Fishing has to be performed from shore, not from boats or any other floatation device. Wading in the water is ok, but not swimming nor sinking! • Participants should not interfere with each other. A good guideline is to restrict yourself to half way to the next peg or the opposing peg. • A fish hooked before the end of the fish-in will be given 15 additional minutes to be landed. • Please practice catch and release, and put back to the water an unharmed fish. Tires, shoes, etc do not have to be released. • Please leave the peg/swim as clean (or cleaner) as you found it. No litter. 7 A few last recommendations It is kindly requested that no participant fishes the venue during the week before the event, unless agreed upon with the regional organizer. Overall, do not take things too seriously. Have fun, enjoy the event, socialize, etc.
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nice blue!
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where you at? might help you a bit
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http://www.ntxe-news.com/artman/publish/article_33632.shtml e-maligned carp coming on as coveted catch By Texas Parks and Wildlife Department Jun 11, 2006 AUSTIN, Texas — Pity the lowly carp no more. Maligned by serious sports fishermen for decades as a trash fish, the common carp, or “sewer trout” if you will, may some day rival largemouth bass as the most popular sport fish in Texas, according to carp aficionados. That may be a bit far fetched, but at the very least, the common carp could be part of the answer to hooking the urban masses on fishing. That was the question posed by Phil Durocher, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department inland fisheries director, when he briefed the Texas Parks & Wildlife Commission about “Fishing for Common Carp — Is This the Future for the Urban Masses?” on April 6. Durocher called carp fishing a “growing phenomenon” in Texas and the United States, whose devotees often invest up to $3,000 for fancy carp fishing rigs to try to land what fly fishing enthusiasts on the East Coast call the “golden bone,” a reference to the coveted bonefish. It turns out there’s some serious money in dem’ bones. If you don’t believe it, just ask Denton native Al St. Cyr. On March 30, St. Cyr, who lives in Austin, reeled in a 43.18-pound carp from that city’s Town Lake during the Texas Carp Challenge. That state record-setting feat earned St. Cyr a $250,000 payday from the American Carp Society, the largest prize ever earned by a carp fisherman in the U.S. Contestants came from 19 states and as far away as England and Romania. Historically speaking, the Asian fish species was swimming in European waters by the 13th century. Since then, Europeans have come to regard the lowly carp as highly as Texas anglers do the rabidly pursued largemouth bass. It has been said that the common carp is the world’s most popular freshwater sportfish. The common carp was first introduced to the U.S. in 1877, and to Texas in 1881. According to Durocher, Texas’ first fish hatchery was established at Austin’s famed Barton Springs to raise, you guessed it, carp to stock Texas lakes and rivers. Today, Austin’s Town Lake ranks as one of the nation’s two world-class carp fisheries. Durocher said there are avid carp anglers and carp organizations dedicated to promoting carp fishing as a popular sport. One is the Carp Anglers Group that boasts 746 members, including the president who’s a Texan. Those who carp about the oft-derided species cite its proliferation in polluted waters and its tendency toward overpopulation, which increases water turbidity that restricts sunlight and negatively affects bass, crappie and other sport fish. And, its detractors point out, the carp, which comes in many varieties, is a non-native. But, Durocher pointed out that the carp is one of the most widely distributed fish species in America. They are fast-growing, he said, and can live for more than 40 years. The world record carp — tipping the scales at 82.3 pounds — was landed in Romania. Almost all carp anglers fish from banks, not boats, which means easier access to fishing opportunities, especially for people living in major population centers. In addition, Durocher noted that carp, which spawn from March through September in Texas, respond well to chumming and bait-and-hook presentation. “The potential for carp fishing is considerable,” said Durocher, TPWD’s Inland Fisheries Division director. “We need to be prepared in Texas if the sport takes off.” To prepare for that possibility, Durocher says fisheries staff members are meeting with carp fishing groups to see what the agency can do to help promote carp fishing. Fisheries biologists also are looking into carp fishing tournaments in Austin to try to get a handle on what kind of economic impact potential such tourneys present in Texas.
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baby steps guys, they will take baby steps--first a little increase in total usaage--then over time BAM--then you will have to go to a trout park to avoid the crowds :ph34r: imagin shoulder to shoulder fisherman and boat use like on a hot summer day on the rock!!! just lovely, I like bass pro and shop there, but man enough is enough---they just want to tap into the branson crowds so they do not drive into springfield I cannot imagin any more use on Taney--it will be like California with closed days and permits to fish on other days I just wish some how the Avg sports man could inject some sence the very reason folks come to Taney will be destroyed reguardless of how many trout they stock --put and take JMHO Mo
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thats a lot of fish on a 5wt!!! a 32 incher was probably mid teens to twenty if it was fat, thats a great fish on the fly!!! take any pics??? Mo
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There seems to be a new sport in outdoor activities--"TOOLING" the younger generation refers to what we used to call "A-HOLES" as "tools" any ways the tools lurk the web and find activities that really fire up folks "like shuffling" in our carp groups case, bowfishing the areas where we post about having a fish in, usally during your event right off your rod tips!! or do it before the event and scatter shot fish up and down the banks/boat ramps... NOT always against any regs, but still rude and bad mannerd-- what this does is anger one group to the point of seeking new regs to stop "tooling" behavour. some "rebel" personality types will go to places to flame off folks and I am sure that some of your shufflers are just that "Tools" JMHO MO
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I fish Stockton all the time, very nice cats, carp run a bit small. at least the ones I am catching dough balls made of wheatees and cream corn work great on channels and carp--for mor cats ad a table spoon of shrimp powder from a mexican food store, cats freak out on it just chum 3 days before with hog feed pellets for cats,rabbit pellets for carp shoot a Pm sometime and tag along with me and the fellas at Stockton Mo
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Is the road still under? who has seen it over the last couple of days Mo
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Its all about Enforcement, but when people use a area as a place for cheap grocerys, then you get users and abusers put and take fisheries bring those kinds of fisherman out in droves--its amazing the impact just a handfull of people can have on a fishery if they are always pulling out limits..the trash left is a byproduct JMHO Mo
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lots of ways, always start with sweet corn that usally works--you say his pond is full of grass carp aka white amur? they do not breed in still water , they need current much like a striper or spoon bill to reproduce, if the pond gets weed problems then removing ALL the fish will bring back weeds, if the fish get big then probably not too many grass carp, does his other fish do well? its all about balence--as a rule the 500 sunfish/100 largemouth bass per acre is the start of a healthy pond--to carry more fish per acre you need diversity in species--instead of JUST bluegills/bass a 350/100/50 bluegill / red ear/warmouth/ ratio/ is a good combo, crappie can over take a lake with a poor predator population--but if you, do put in BLACK CRAPPIE-/50 per acre, they seem to be better adapted to pond life the white crappie, grass carp are needed in some ponds but in low numbers 2-3 per acre--but will not eat filementatous "sp?" alga which common carp do.... best usally isralie mirror carp just put them in under 10 per acre--as a carp control flat head cats do a great job but do poor in ponds under 3 acres--but they love eating carp and a big flat can and does eat carp up to 5-6 pounds so 1 or 2 big flats are plenty
