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rps: My firm belief is that BOAT is not an actual word but an acronym that stands for Break Out Another Thousand. Oh well, warranty should cover the repairs but I hate being down in the meantime. And thanks kindly for the tournament wishes. Be nice to find a strong dock bite up there at LOZ and win the big one. CPA championship is Oct. 4-5. I'll report back regardless of the outcome. Chub: rps is right about the upper Kings. Stay after em up there and you'll get em. Keep a buzzbait and spinnerbait handy for when the water dips a few more degrees and chunk em at every dock and piece of wood you come across. Oh, and too bad that RETARD in the big cruiser didn't punch a hole in the hull on one of the MANY deadheads up there that are just under the surface. Never hurts to have another piece of structure to fish.

Nice largemouth, rps. And a good walleye as well. Went Sunday myself and managed to catch a mixed bag of about 15 SM, KY and LM by flipping docks with small jigs and shaky head from Baxter to Big Creek but only three keepers in the bunch. I'll take it, though, considering I had no front graph (brand new Lowrance 520c got water in it during a rainstorm last trip) and my trolling motor suddenly went berserk and would run only at high speed, sometimes coming on without me even touching the foot pedal. It's a MotorGuide Tour 82, less than a year old. Needless to say, not exactly in equipment heaven right now. And of course, all this happens a few weeks before the Central Pro-Am championship. Boat traffic was awful down Baxter way Sunday. Maybe they all ran outta gas $$$ by Monday.

Know what you mean, techo. I'm 6-4, 300-too-dang-much and can make a 6-pounder look like a 2-pounder in pix.

Wish I had used my cellphone and took a picture of the one I caught Saturday. It was a pretty one ... shaped like a KY but with smallmouth coloring and markings. It was raining at the time and I had put my phone away. Hope you catch one soon, too, rps. Don't tell anyone (lol) but this particular one was on the first secondary point on the right at the mouth of Big Creek. Maybe you can catch him. He seems to like WMC football jigs.

Also fished the Kings area Saturday, launching at Viola around 9:30 a.m. and fishing til 6 p.m. Caught some shorts flipping jigs around docks and dragging FB jigs around points. Did eventually catch eight keepers but all of those came between SK bridge and Big Creek. Again, FB jig was the ticket but the fish weren't deep ... 10-18 feet. Used a half-ounce FB jig in watermelon candy with the Zoom Creepy Crawler trailer. Did hit a keeper grand slam ... SJ, KY, LM and 3.5-pound MM. Would like to have weighed in that sack in a tournament just for novelty purposes. Best five went 13-14 pounds. Not a big sack obviously, but not bad for getting started late and you don't often see all four species in a five-fish tournament sack.

Thank you Techo for your comment about the pros not getting a free ride. I fish the pro side of Central Pro-Am and spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to do so. Other than a few complimentary lures here and there, that is all money straight out of my pocket. I do not have other sponsors who pay my way and that has nothing to do with my angling skills or success rate. I have qualified for the CPA championship among the top 20 in season points each year I've fished the circuit. It's because I work a full-time job and do not feel that I could adequately represent such sponsors with my remaining time. I prefer to spend that time on the water finding fish for the next tournament, which will benefit both me and my co-anglers. In the past two years alone, five and perhaps six of the co-anglers who have fished with me have finished in the top five of a CPA tournament, including two who won. At current gas prices, my average fuel bill for a tournament day is $100. Forget the oil at $20 a gallon, let alone all the other expenses of owning a state-of-the-art bass boat. And still, like clockwork, most amateurs hand me a $20 bill at the end of the day for their "share" of the gas. In part, that is perpetuated by folks spreading the myth that pros in regional-level tournaments have most or all of their expenses paid. Tain't so.

Sounds like you had a good plan and that you did darn well for your first visit to a great but very unique lake. Glad you enjoyed yourself. Ya'll come back now, ya hear?

Anyone know if the Sweetwater ramp is open now? Also, curious if anyone has a report on the Kings between Viola and the 86 bridge? Was thinking about trying to fish that area Saturday for the heck of it. Thanks in advance for any help.

Eric's right. I know because I guided full-time for several years on the lakes around Hot Springs before deciding that was too much work and worry for me. Some people will zero in on a guide boat and dog you everywhere you go. And it has more to do with the person than whether they are a "tournament fisherman" or recreational angler. Some people just have little regard for others and lack the character or ability to find their own fish.

I have one thing to add to the C&R issue ... the MDR has always been on the cutting edge of bass management practices. Missouri was one of the first states to implement a minimum length limit, if not THE first. Minimum length and slot limits are management tools that enable biologists to help balance a fish population within a lake's ability to support a given number of fish per acre. But such limits are completely ineffective when there is zero harvest. The idea is to take some fish, therefore improving living conditions for others. Catch and release is a great practice and needs to continue up to a point, but there also needs to be some controlled harvest in order for our regulations to work to our advantage.

On the subject of jig trailers, just wanted to add that I've been using the Zoom Creepy Crawler doubletail this year with quite a bit of success. It's a smaller profile than the Yamamoto or Kinami but works well for me on a fb jig. But its real niche for me is on the back of a 5/16ths Eakins jig. You might give it a whirl.

Shane, what buddy tournament are they having up there this weekend? Are you not fishing Central Pro-Am?

Maybe I'm strange, but I love it when you're reeling a spinnerbait by a shallow bush or log and a big 'un knocks about a foot of slack in your line.

RR Vet, I was one who recommended the Crucial. I own both Crucial and Compre models and love them both. Just went out to the garage and happened to have a Crucial and Compre laying on my boat's front deck next to each other. Both are 6-6 med heavy/fast tip models. Actions are identical. Both have 10 guides. Only difference is the Crucial MIGHT be a little more sensitive because of its IM9 construction. Compre is IM8. But to be honest, when fishing I would have to look down at the label to know if I'm using a Crucial or a Compre. Really very little difference except the higher-modulus graphite in the Crucial — and $30-$40 in price. Both have over-the-counter replacement guarantees. For general consumption by all, I bought a 6-6 medium/extra fast Compre last fall and used it for jerk-baiting this past winter. It's the first rod I've ever felt was perfect for this application. Good soft tip for long casts and to allow the fish to get the bait without ripping it away from him or pulling off after being hooked but plenty of backbone to handle a big fish. Anyone looking for a good jerk bait rod might want to try one. Hope this helps, RR Vet.

RRV, Extra-fast tip is more limber but the rod still has lots of backbone in the butt section for power when fighting a fish.

RR Vet, Since Bill's going to sandbag, I'll offer my own uneducated 2 cents' worth. Over the past several years, I've become a big fan of Shimano gear. Three outfits? Here's my choices, emphasis on MY. First would be a 6-6 medium heavy Shimano Crucial casting rod with fast or extra fast tip. Reel would be a Shimano Chronarch spooled with 15-pound Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon. This would be for Texas-rigging soft plastics or casting/pitching a regular (not FB) jig. This outfit could also double as a spinner bait rod. Second would be a 7-foot Crucial, medium heavy/extra fast, Chronarch reel and 15-pound Trilene 100% fluoro. This would be for Carolina-rigging and dragging a FB jig. Although the 15-pound line might be a bit heavy, you could also use this rig to throw a big crank bait (DD22), especially at night. Third, I'd choose a 6-6 or 7-foot Crucial spinning rod, medium action with fast or extra fast tip. I'd put a Shimano Symetre 2500 series reel on it and spool it with 6-pound P-Line mono. The rod has a drop-shot weight keeper at the butt end and is great for drop-shotting. It can also double as a shaky-head rod. The Crucial rods are IM9 construction and for my money are the way to go. They retail for around $139. Personally, I don't see paying for the GLoomis name. I own one GLX model and to me, there's not $5 worth of added performance in it over my Crucials, much less $200. But others may feel differently and that's certainly their right. The other advantage to the Crucials or any other Shimano rod is their over-the-counter, no-questions-asked replacement policy. You break it, they replace it over-the-counter wherever you bought it. Can't beat that. Hope this has been some help. Look forward to reading other posts on this great topic.

Skeeter, Like others said, I feel your pain. But I'd strongly recommend seeking other legal counsel before I commenced riddling someone with bullets for stealing $200 worth of gas. Did your attorney also think it wise to post death threats on a public internet forum? Sounds like premeditation from here. I seriously doubt that any prosecutor, judge or jury is going to embrace the idea of killing someone over a tank of gas regardless of whatever obscure law your "attorney" wants to quote. Bill's right. Thieves have been around since the dawn of time. You aren't going to single-handedly stamp out thievery by killing anyone. All you'll do is land yourself in jail, perhaps for taking a shot at an innocent fisherman. Stop holding your common sense hostage and take your boat home.

Danger, I'm sure Bill can expand on this, but my simple answer would be to fish the fb jig exactly as you would a Carolina rig. Chunk that dude as far as you can, let it fall to the bottom and drag it slowly back to the boat. I keep my rod tip low and sweep the rod sideways when I set the hook, just like with a C-rig. I throw it on 15-pound fluorocarbon (Seaguar or Trilene 100% fluoro) for sensitivity.

Question rps ... do Diet Cokes sharing an ice chest with walleye taste less fishy than with other species? Drank plenty of "fish beer" back in my drinking days.

Allen, Fish the points around Big Bay Resort on both sides of the creek. Also, heading downlake toward Baxter, go into White Oak. It'll be the first creek on your left and within sight of Big Bay. You'll find em.

Seems I remember getting out and enjoying a relaxing day of fishing along shady banks, pitching a jig or worm and catching scrappy little spots. Then I got all serious about tournament fishing and was forced to concentrate on catching bigger (and fewer) fish.

I gotta agree with Bill on this one. I don't think you can successfully legislate safety and certainly not common sense. Besides, we have a no-wake zone under the Highway 12 bridge on Beaver Lake and it ends up the sheriff's patrol sits there watching the bridge all day when their time would be better spent out patroling the rest of the lake. Can't speak with much knowledge about Missouri, but enforcement resources are spread ridiculously thin in Arkansas. As a result, it's fruitless to enact new laws because there aren't enough deputies, game wardens, etc. to effectively enforce the ones we have. Like it or not, it comes down to the fact that we have to share public waters with other interest groups. And realistically, fishermen's headaches with big-boat traffic are pretty well limited to a few hours each day on weekends and primarily only in warm weather months. Before we start hollering for size limits or other restrictions on pleasure boats, perhaps we should think about whether we really want to open that can of worms ... do we want round-the-clock speed limits on our rigs? Maybe those huge boats and certain water activities (skiing, tubing, etc.) could be limited to certain areas of the lake. I'm as irritated as anyone by the idiots and irresponsible pleasure-craft renters. Had two pass between me and a point I was fishing Saturday through a space no wider than a long cast with the crank bait I was throwing. But the bottom line is, it's public water and we have to share unless we're willing to risk some of the freedom that we, too, enjoy. Just my 2 cents' worth. I'm done. Assemble the firing squad and blast away.

Fished the same derby, Bill, and had the same opinion of the boat traffic. Good grief, it was awful. Told my wife/partner that I thought it was the worst I'd ever seen on the Rock. Glad to hear you say the same. Didn't know if it was just me or what. We were fishing points in the James and NOT fishing that far out from the tree line and twice had boats run between us and the trees. Could have clocked either one of em with a football jig and it sure was tempting. Ah, the joys of summer.

Incredible info. Incredibly detailed. Incredible that Bill and Capt. D would share it after all the hours they put in on the hour gathering it. Thanks, guys. Seriously.

I think those fish actually came from Beaver. I believe I recognize that log as one near Coppermine Lodge.