Fishinwrench: I know where you were going...but..I hardly think these two guys are fishin' buddies by the tone of the exchange. He could have made his point with regressing to "douch bag." Believe me Thom and I have disagreed on many topics in the past, but we always treated eachother like gentlemen and once you call someone a douch bag where does it become unacceptable? Besides I don't want to read posts from guys just lobbing names at eachother. BORING.