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i don't think so. i know they built a new ramp last year. hopefully one of the locals will weigh-in and let us know for sure.
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it's getting close to the time that I start thinking about swepco. i just wanted to start a topic so we could share info. if anyone goes please post it here. i probably won't come down til december but i plan to fish it at least a couple times this year. thanks
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i took the oldest boy and my fil to stockton yesterday. we put in at ruark, weather was nice albeit a little windy but i guess it always is at stockton...water temp was 66 and it's stained. we tried to fish pockets, and points with the wind blowing into them but sometimes retreated to calmer water to warm up. we caught lots of small bass on crankbaits...my son's favorite bait is a gray shad rap, and he caught his share on it. which included a 17 inch walleye on it. i was using a white and chart bandit 200 -- i caught quite a few 12 - 13 inch bass on it, and 3 nice white bass. i also used a jig, and a tx rig finesse worm to pitch to the flooded bushes in the calmer areas. i caught tons of 8 - 12 inch bass on those two. my only keeper bass of the day came on a 1/2 oz football jig in about 20 foot of water. My fil was intent on catching some crappie...he didn't have any luck with the crappie -- my guess is they were deeper than we were fishing.
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G3, Tracker, Or Xpress
wily replied to flysnducks's topic in Tips & Tricks, Boat Help and Product Review
i've got a 2001 G3 Pro 175 w/ a 40 yamaha 2 stroke...the current model is called the eagle 175. it's plenty of boat for the tailwaters, and for the upper ends of any reservoir. i'd be hesitant to try and touch the dam on a windy day at stockton in it...but other than that it's a great boat -- that fishes well. i spoke to a guy, and looked at his express pretty closely this weekend at beaver. it looks to me like the seating is a little farther forward in it, so the front deck is shorter, and the rod box is on the side...which limits seating capacity. i'd personally buy either of them before a tracker...the tracker has more of a v bow which gets pretty tippy. my old boat was a ranger, and it was unbelievable stable...but for an aluminum boat the G3 is pretty darn stable -- which is important to me because i have two small boys. -
i'm looking for a GPS to deal with the early morning/late night fog -- i want it to have an integrated map -- and basic depthfinder/temp capabilities. if it could use the hot spots maps, or other add-on maps all the better. doesn't have to be color any recommendations?? or anyone looking to trade-up? thanks
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we just got back from a long weekend -- i spent a couple hours on thursday evening and friday morning up indian creek mostly in Ford Hollow. i fished with a jig exclusively. i caught a handful of dinks both days...just running the banks and pitching the jig to likely spots. i caught a couple out of cedar trees right off, so I'd throw it into every cedar i ran across...not knowing that was a pattern to use. water is up of course, and about 73 degrees. it had a good color to it, but with so much cover it made it hard for us. a handful of striper boats were out friday in hybrid hollow and the next cove down. i heard they were catching them on crankbaits about 60 foot deep.
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we just got back from a long weekend at spider creek. the water is definitely up, so no wading -- but it allowed us to use the boat, so it was ok with us. the trout fishing was pretty good. we got lucky because the hatchery was stocking at parker bend ramp as i was putting the boat in on friday, so there were lots of dumb one's to be had. the bank fishing was tough due to generation...but we caught lots of fish out of the boat. only one fish above the slot in our 4 days. trolling shad raps, or casting them upstream and reeling them back to the boat produced most of the quality fish. yellow power bait on a mini c-rig, and inflated nightcrawlers provided the rest... all in all -- a great weekend to be in the ozarks.
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Chairman Ben S. Bernanke At the National Association for Business Economics 50th Annual Meeting, Washington, D.C. October 7, 2008 Current Economic and Financial Conditions Good afternoon. I am pleased to have once again the opportunity to address the National Association for Business Economics. My remarks today will focus on recent developments in the financial sector and the economy and on the challenges we face. As you know, financial systems in the United States and in much of the rest of the world are under extraordinary stress, particularly the credit and money markets. The losses suffered by many banks and nonbank financial firms have both constrained their ability to lend and reduced the willingness of other market participants to deal with them. Great uncertainty about the values of financial assets, particularly more complex and opaque assets, has made investors extremely reluctant to bear credit risk, resulting in further declines in asset prices and a drying up of liquidity in a number of funding markets. Even secured funding has become expensive and difficult to obtain, as lenders worry about their ability to sell collateral in illiquid markets in the event of default. In addition, many securitization markets, such as the secondary market for private-label mortgage-backed securities, remain closed or impaired. Considerable experience in both industrialized and emerging economies has shown that severe financial instability, together with the associated declines in asset prices and disruptions in credit markets, can take a heavy toll on the broader economy if left unchecked. For this reason, the Federal Reserve, the Treasury, and other agencies are committed to restoring market stability and are working assiduously to ensure that the financial system is able to perform its critical economic functions. Recent actions by the Congress have given the Treasury new tools and resources to address the stressed conditions of our financial markets and institutions. The Federal Reserve has also been granted a new authority, the ability to pay interest on bank reserves, which will allow us to expand our lending as needed to support the system while better managing the federal funds rate. These tools will provide important additional support for the government's efforts to strengthen financial markets and the economy. Let me briefly review recent financial developments. On the heels of nearly a year of stress in credit markets, investors' and creditors' concerns about funding and credit risks at financial firms intensified over the summer as mortgage-related assets deteriorated further, economic growth slowed, and uncertainty about the economic outlook increased. As investors and creditors lost confidence in the ability of certain firms to meet their obligations, their access to capital markets as well as to short-term funding markets became increasingly impaired and their stock prices fell sharply. Among the companies that experienced this dynamic most forcefully were the government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs), Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; the investment bank Lehman Brothers; and the insurance company American International Group (AIG). The Federal Reserve believes that, whenever possible, such difficulties should be addressed through private-sector arrangements--for example, by raising new equity capital, as many firms have done, by negotiations leading to a merger or acquisition, or by an orderly wind-down. Government assistance should be provided with the greatest reluctance and only when the stability of the financial system, and thus the health of the broader economy, is at risk. In those cases when financial stability is threatened, however, intervention to protect the public interest may well be justified. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac present cases in point. The Federal Reserve had long warned about the systemic risks posed by these companies' large portfolios of mortgages and mortgage-backed securities, as well as the problems arising from the conflict between shareholders' objectives and the government's goals for the two firms. Given the scale of losses in their portfolios, raising enough new capital from private investors was infeasible. The firms' size and their government-sponsored status precluded a merger with, or acquisition by, another company. To avoid unacceptably large dislocations in the mortgage markets, the financial sector, and the economy as a whole, the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) put Fannie and Freddie into conservatorship and the Treasury, drawing on authorities recently granted by the Congress, made financial support available. The Federal Reserve, acting in a consultative role, worked closely with FHFA in evaluating the GSE portfolios and capital positions. Based on the joint findings of the agencies, we supported FHFA's decision to place the companies into conservatorship as necessary and appropriate, given their conditions and systemic importance. The government's actions appear to have stabilized the GSEs, although like virtually all other firms they are experiencing effects of the current crisis. Nonetheless, we already have seen benefits of their stabilization in the form of lower mortgage rates, which should help the housing market. The difficulties at Lehman and AIG raised somewhat different issues. Like the GSEs, both companies were large and complex and deeply embedded in our financial system. In both cases, as the firms approached default, the Treasury and the Federal Reserve sought private-sector solutions, but none was forthcoming. Attempts to organize a consortium of private firms to purchase or recapitalize Lehman were unsuccessful. With respect to public-sector solutions, we determined that either facilitating a sale of Lehman or maintaining the company as a free-standing entity would have required a very sizable injection of public funds--much larger than in the case of Bear Stearns--and would have involved the assumption by taxpayers of billions of dollars of expected losses. Even if assuming these costs could be justified on public policy grounds, neither the Treasury nor the Federal Reserve had the authority to commit public money in that way; in particular, the Federal Reserve's loans must be sufficiently secured to provide reasonable assurance that the loan will be fully repaid. Such collateral was not available in this case. Recognizing that Lehman's potential failure posed risks to market functioning, the Federal Reserve sought to cushion the effects by implementing a number of measures, including substantially broadening the collateral accepted by the Fed's Primary Dealer Credit Facility (PDCF) and Term Securities Lending Facility (TSLF) to ensure that the remaining primary dealers would have uninterrupted access to funding. In the case of AIG, the Federal Reserve and the Treasury judged that a disorderly failure of AIG would have severely threatened global financial stability and the performance of the U.S. economy. That judgment reflected our assessment of prevailing market conditions, AIG's central role in a number of markets other firms use to manage risks, and the size and composition of AIG's balance sheet. To avoid the default of AIG, the Federal Reserve was able to provide emergency credit that was judged to be adequately secured by the assets of the company. To protect U.S. taxpayers and to mitigate the possibility that lending to AIG would encourage inappropriate risk-taking by financial firms in the future, the Federal Reserve further ensured that the terms of the credit extended to AIG imposed significant costs and constraints on the firm's owners, managers, and creditors. AIG's difficulties and Lehman's failure, along with growing concerns about the U.S. housing sector and economy, contributed to extraordinarily turbulent conditions in global financial markets in recent weeks. Equity prices have fallen sharply, the cost of short-term credit, where such credit has been available, has spiked, and liquidity has dried up in many markets. One money market fund's losses forced it to "break the buck"--that is, the value of its assets fell below par--an event that triggered extensive withdrawals from a number of money market funds. Those funds responded to the surge in redemptions by attempting to reduce their holdings of commercial paper and large certificates of deposit issued by banks. Some firms that could not roll over maturing commercial paper drew on back-up lines of credit with banks just as the banks were finding it even more difficult to raise cash in the money markets. At the same time, a marked increase in the demand for safe assets--a flight to quality and liquidity--resulted in a further drop in the value of mortgage-related assets and sent the yield on Treasury bills down to a few hundredths of a percent. Developments during the summer pressured not only nonbank financial firms, but also a number of depository institutions, including Washington Mutual (WaMu) and Wachovia. In recent weeks, these two institutions suffered deposit outflows and reduced access to wholesale funding. The Office of Thrift Supervision, WaMu's regulator, closed that company and appointed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) as receiver; the FDIC immediately sold the institution to JPMorgan Chase. In the case of Wachovia, to avoid serious adverse effects on economic conditions and financial stability, the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the President and on the recommendation of the Federal Reserve and FDIC, authorized the FDIC to use its funds to facilitate the sale of that company's banking operations without loss to creditors. Both Citicorp and Wells Fargo have offered to buy the company and negotiations are continuing. Most importantly, however, in either case all depositors and creditors of Wachovia are fully protected, and depositors and other customers will experience no interruption in banking services. By potentially restricting future flows of credit to households and businesses, the developments in financial markets pose a significant threat to economic growth. The Treasury and the Fed have taken a range of actions to address the very tight funding conditions that now prevail. For example, the Treasury implemented a temporary guarantee program for balances held in money market mutual funds, helping to stem the outflows from these funds and thus reducing their need to sell assets into already distressed markets. The Federal Reserve has taken a number of steps, including putting in place a temporary lending facility that provides financing for banks to purchase high-quality asset-backed commercial paper from money market funds. The Fed has also significantly increased the quantity of funds it auctions to banks and has accommodated heightened demands for funding from banks and primary dealers; as of last Wednesday, our various lending facilities, including our securities lending program, were providing more than $800 billion of liquidity to the financial system. To address dollar funding pressures worldwide, we have significantly expanded reciprocal currency arrangements (so-called swap agreements) with foreign central banks. These agreements enable the foreign central banks to provide dollar funding to financial institutions in their jurisdictions, which helps to improve the functioning of dollar funding markets globally. In addition, this morning the Federal Reserve announced a new facility that will help provide liquidity to term funding markets by purchasing three-month commercial paper and asset-backed commercial paper directly from eligible issuers. The expansion of Federal Reserve lending is helping financial firms cope with reduced access to their usual sources of funding. Recently, however, our liquidity provision had begun to run ahead of our ability to absorb excess reserves held by the banking system, leading the effective funds rate, on many days, to fall below the target set by the Federal Open Market Committee. This problem has largely been addressed by a provision of the legislation the Congress passed last week, which gives the Federal Reserve the authority to pay interest on balances that depository institutions hold in their accounts at the Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve announced yesterday that it will pay interest on required reserve balances at 10 basis points below the target federal funds rate, and pay interest on excess reserves, initially at 75 basis points below the target. Paying interest on reserves should allow us to better control the federal funds rate, as banks are unlikely to lend overnight balances at a rate lower than they can receive from the Fed; thus, the payment of interest on reserves should set a floor for the funds rate over the day. With this step, our lending facilities may be more easily expanded as necessary. So long as financial conditions warrant, we will continue to look for ways to reduce funding pressures in key markets. Economic activity had shown signs of decelerating even before the recent upsurge in financial-market tensions. As has been the case for some time, the housing market continues to be a primary source of weakness in the real economy as well as in the financial markets. However, the slowdown in economic activity has spread outside the housing sector. Private payrolls have continued to contract, and the declines in employment, together with earlier increases in food and energy prices, have eroded the purchasing power of households. This sluggishness of real incomes, together with tighter credit and declining household wealth, is now showing through more clearly to consumer spending. Indeed, since May, real consumer outlays have contracted significantly. Meanwhile, in the business sector, worsening sales prospects and a heightened sense of uncertainty have begun to weigh more heavily on investment spending as well. The intensification of financial turmoil and the further impairment of the functioning of credit markets seem likely to increase the restraint on economic activity in the period ahead. Even households with good credit histories are now facing difficulties obtaining mortgage loans or home equity lines of credit. Banks are also reducing credit card limits, and denial rates on automobile loan applications reportedly are rising. Businesses, too, are confronting diminished access to credit. For example, disruptions in the commercial paper market and tightening of bank lending standards have made it more difficult for businesses to obtain the working capital they need to meet everyday operating expenses such as payrolls and inventories. All told, economic activity is likely to be subdued during the remainder of this year and into next year. The heightened financial turmoil that we have experienced of late may well lengthen the period of weak economic performance and further increase the risks to growth. To support growth and reduce the downside risks, continued efforts to stabilize the financial markets are essential. The Federal Reserve will continue to use the tools at its disposal to improve market functioning and liquidity. Inflation has been elevated, reflecting the steep increases in the prices of oil, other commodities, and imports that occurred earlier this year, as well as some pass-through by firms to consumers of their higher costs of production. However, more recently, the prices of oil and other commodities, while remaining quite volatile, have fallen from their peaks, and prices of imports show signs of decelerating. In addition, expected inflation, as measured by consumer surveys and inflation-indexed Treasury securities, has held steady or eased. These recent developments, together with economic activity that is likely to fall short of potential for a time, should lead to rates of inflation more consistent with price stability. Still, the inflation outlook remains highly uncertain, in part because of the extraordinary volatility of commodity prices. We will need to continue to monitor price developments closely. Overall, the combination of the incoming data and recent financial developments suggests that the outlook for economic growth has worsened and that the downside risks to growth have increased. At the same time, the outlook for inflation has improved somewhat, though it remains uncertain. In light of these developments, the Federal Reserve will need to consider whether the current stance of policy remains appropriate. The intensification of the financial crisis in recent weeks made clear that a more powerful and comprehensive approach involving the fiscal authorities was needed to solve these problems. On that basis, the Secretary of the Treasury, with the support of the Federal Reserve, went to the Congress to ask for a substantial program aimed at stabilizing our financial markets. As you know, last week the Congress passed and the President signed the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act. This legislation provides important new tools for addressing the distress in financial markets and thus mitigating the risks to the economy. The act adds broad, flexible authorities to buy troubled assets, to provide guarantees, and to directly strengthen the balance sheets of individual institutions. Notably, the legislation establishes a new Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, under which the Treasury is authorized to purchase as much as $700billion of troubled mortgages, mortgage-related securities, and other financial instruments from financial firms that are regulated under U.S. law and have significant operations in the United States. The act also raises the limit on deposit insurance at banks and credit unions from $100,000 to $250,000 per account, a step that should reinforce depositors' confidence in the security of their funds and thus help to stabilize depository institutions. And, as I mentioned, the act provides the Federal Reserve the authority to pay interest on reserves, which will allow us to better manage the federal funds rate as we provide liquidity to the markets. We will begin exercising that authority this week. The TARP's purchases of illiquid assets from banks and other financial institutions will create liquidity and promote price discovery in the markets for these assets. This in turn will reduce investor uncertainty about the current value and prospects of financial institutions, enabling banks and other institutions to raise capital and increasing the willingness of counterparties to engage. More generally, increased liquidity and transparency in pricing will help to restore confidence in our financial markets and promote more normal functioning. With time, strengthening our financial institutions and markets will allow credit to begin flowing again, supporting economic growth. The interests of taxpayers are carefully protected under this program. First, the Congress has required extensive controls and oversight to ensure that the allotted funds are used appropriately and effectively. Second, the $700 billion allocated by the legislation is not an authorization to spend but rather an authorization to purchase financial assets. The Treasury will be a patient investor and will likely hold these assets for an appreciable period of time. Eventually, however, some assets will mature, and the Treasury will choose to sell others to private investors. Financially, in the long run, the taxpayer may come out either ahead or behind in this process; in light of the many uncertainties, no assurances can be given. But the ultimate cost of the program to the taxpayer will certainly be far less than $700 billion. Third, and most important, restoring the normal flow of credit is essential for economic recovery. If the TARP promotes financial stability, leading ultimately to stronger economic growth and job creation, it will have proved a very good investment indeed, to everyone's benefit. To be sure, there are many challenges associated with the design and implementation of the TARP, including determining which assets will be purchased and how prices will be determined. The Treasury, with the advice and cooperation of the Federal Reserve, is working to address these challenges as quickly as possible. It is unlikely that a single method will be used for acquiring assets; inevitably, some experimentation will be necessary to determine which approaches are most effective. Importantly, the legislation that created the TARP does provide sufficient flexibility to allow for different approaches to solving the problem--subject, of course, to the close oversight that will ensure that the program's funds are used in ways that are in the interest of taxpayers. These are momentous steps, but they are being taken to address a problem of historic dimensions. In one respect, however, we are fortunate. We have learned from historical experience with severe financial crises that if government intervention comes only at a point at which many or most financial institutions are insolvent or nearly so, the costs of restoring the system are greatly increased. This is not the situation we face today. The Congress and the Administration chose to act at a moment of great stress, but one at which the great majority of financial institutions have sufficient capital and liquidity to return to their critical function of providing new credit for our economy. The steps being taken now to restore confidence in our institutions and markets will go far to resolving the current dislocations in the markets. I believe that the bold actions taken by the Congress, the Treasury, the Federal Reserve, and other agencies, together with the natural recuperative powers of the financial markets, will lay the groundwork for financial and economic recovery. http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/s...ke20081007a.htm
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CEO --Chief Embezzlement Officer. CFO-- Corporate Fraud Officer. BULL MARKET -- A random market movement causing an investor to mistake himself for a financial genius. BEAR MARKET -- A 6 to 18 month period when the kids get no allowance, the wife gets no jewelry, and the husband gets no sex. VALUE INVESTING -- The art of buying low and selling lower. P/E RATIO -- The percentage of investors wetting their pants as the market keeps crashing. BROKER -- What my broker has made me. STANDARD & POOR -- Your life in a nutshell. STOCK ANALYST -- Idiot who just downgraded your stock. STOCK SPLIT -- When your ex-wife and her lawyer split your assets equally between themselves. FINANCIAL PLANNER -- A guy whose phone has been disconnected. MARKET CORRECTION -- The day after you buy stocks. CASH FLOW -- The movement your money makes as it disappears down the toilet. YAHOO -- What you yell after selling it to some poor sucker for $240 per share. WINDOWS -- What you jump out of when you're the sucker who bought Yahoo @ $240 per share. INSTITUTIONAL INVESTOR -- Past year investor who's now locked up in a nuthouse. PROFIT -- An archaic word no longer in use
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great pictures looks like you guys had a ball count me and the oldest in next time
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i'm going to say it'll be an 8 but a 10 is a definite possibility potential for 6 inches of rain over the weekend...sounds like a lot to me. better batten down the hatches
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thanks guys -- i sent a couple pictures and a copy of the owners manual it'll sleep 4 easy...the table folds down into a sleeper for the kids, and the pull out is plenty big for the wife and i.
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15 foot lightweight great shape... $350 best offer. here's a link to grumman...new sells for over a $1k. http://www.marathonboat.com/doubleend-15.asp here's a pic of the actual boat...great shape email me at kstaton@sitm.com thanks
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i'm wanting to sell our old pop-up. it's unique in that it only pulls out on the one end. you enter it from the back. has a dinnette table that also makes into a bed. there isn't a fridge or a stove...but there is a drop down spot for a coleman stove outside...right by the door. it does have ac. the cushions have been re-uphosltered, and the canvas is in pretty good shape. it is basically a tent on wheels. but it is pretty cool, and it is darn cheap. $500 or best offer. i can send more pictures if interested... email is kstaton@sitm.com
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great read...thanks
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the only thing she has in her sights -- is ANWR
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on a side note -- funny story about the ramp at riverpointe first time i put my old ranger in at riverpointe i backed it down into the lake...started it and backed the 20 yards or so into the main channel. my father in-law was with me, so he jumped in the truck and headed to trout hollow where we were staying...and where i was to pick him up. i'm sitting in the middle of the lake and all of a sudden water starts coming up thru the drains in the bottom of the boat...i panicked. flipped the bilge pumps and cobbed it to get it back to the ramp. i thought the darn thing was sinking. so i get back to the bank, and i can't reach the drain plug because of the scalloped area where the plug goes on a ranger...so i hop in, and i'm laying on my back trying to get the plug in...there's a pontoon boat that's fishing about 50 yards away just enjoying the show. i finally got the plug back-in. i had all my clothes on (last weekend of october) my wallet was still in my pocket...I was wet from my ears down. I felt like an idiot, but i was really scared the darn boat was sinking.
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Judicial Ruling Stops Cafo Construction In Missouri
wily replied to wily's topic in Conservation Issues
i hope all the CAFO's move out of state -- I'm for family farms not factory farms. You can say that the judge made an outlandish decision but the DNR bends over backwards to help business -- i doubt it's in their original charter to provide an atmosphere that is conducive to business. to create jobs for missourians...that's all a politician has to say and all is forgiven. you see it all over the place. the corporations get the tax relief...and the government promotes it as an opportunity to improve missouri. but in reality it's just a transfer from the individual to the corporations...with the politicians lining their pockets in the process. i say that it's Hogwash -- the bottom line is we're trading our tax dollars or our clean air/water to an outsider with the hopes that this outsider will improve our plight...but at what cost is too great? it's about time somebody made a stand and held DNR accountable for their actions. -
article in today's joplin globe -- looks like at least one person has some balls. and according to the story -- the ruling should affect all counties in Missouri...including the chicken CAFO near Raring River. hopefully, it will be retroactive and someone will force the DNR to honor the ruling. http://www.joplinglobe.com/cnhi/joplinglob...eadpicturestory
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i think most of the guides down there used to buy their shad from a guy who would net them in grand lake, but they changed the law and the bait can't be transported across state lines...so there is a shortage of shad. that seems wierd to me...maybe the guys in oklahoma are better net throwers...or the shad are shallower or ?? -- i really don't know. seems like the best place to get bait would be to stop at your favorite creek or pond and catch a bunch of small bluegill/perch and use them. creek chubs would work great too but hard to keep alive. as far as moving around...i'm sure they do. but most important thing i think is gravel flats near the river channel. i'd say if you're serious about it...you should take a guide the first day, and then take what you'll learn and use that the remaining days.
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not sure where they'll be in september but we went last year -- about the 3rd week in october. lots of fish in the Rocky Branch area. we trolled live bait in the area that's shaded...and cast topwaters and sassy shads to breaking fish. fish the gravel flats next to the river channel. the stripers were eating very small shad. we went with Don Andreason from Beaver Fever and the lures and equipment that he had were all too large for the size shad they were eating...don't get me wrong we caught quite a few on live bait but only one on top. i'd say take white bass size grubs, and small topwaters and give it a go. I think if i'd have had my regular white bass stuff i could have loaded the boat. if you decide to take a guide...i recommend Don http://www.beaverfeverguides.com/
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i like john prine...pretty funny stuff if you're looking for something a little darker -- check out Townes Van Zandt
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not sure where your located but call big john's trolling motor repair in grove oklahoma 918.257.8385
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i'm taking tomorrow off and taking the boys camping. lots of fun activities http://www.missouritrout.com/kidsfishingday.html Kid’s Fishing Day Outdoor Conservation Classes Aug. 16, 2008 If kids attend two classes they will get their next tag free at Roaring River if used before Oct. 31, 2008, and they will receive a choice of prizes. If they attend 3 classes they will be entered into a drawing for other prizes. The drawing will be held at 5:00 p.m. In addition, Charlie Stock from Mid-West Flies, David Waugh of Roaring River Concession, and MAKO Fly Fishing Club are donating at least three complete fly fishing outfits as well as boxes of tied flies to be given away by a drawing to children who attend any fly casting class during the day. Children who attend an archery class will be entered in a drawing for a bow. Children must be present to win. Classes are also open to the whole family, but only children may enter the drawings. 9:00 a.m. Fly Casting. Instructor: David Waugh Class will be taught at the first hole downstream from the bridge across from the CCC lodge. David is certified from the national FFF (Fly Fishing Federation) as a fly fishing instructor and is the managers of Roaring River’s CCC lodge and Roaring River Inn. Basic casting techniques will be taught. Students who attend this class will be eligible to enter a drawing for a complete fly fishing outfit. 9:30 a.m. Fish Cleaning. Instructor: Charles Knapp Class will be held near the hatchery office. Charles is a long time fisherman at Roaring River. He will have a hands on demonstration on preparing trout for cooking. 9:30 a.m. Tree Identification. Instructor: Josh Roller Josh works for the Department of Conservation at Roaring River Hatchery. The class will be under the large tent. Do you know an oak leaf from a maple leaf? A hickory nut from a walnut? If not, come join Josh as he shows you differences between trees of Roaring River State Park. 9:30 a.m. Ozark Cave Fish. Instructor: Blake Stephens Blake works for the Missouri Dept. of Conservation in Neosho and will help students learn about the habitat and threats to the endangered Ozark Cave Fish. This class will be taught under the blue tent. 9:30 a.m.- 3:30 p.m. Air Rifle Target Shooting. Instructor: Jean Mayer and Chris Landstad Jean works for the Department of Conservation in Springfield and Chris works at Roaring River. They will give students instruction on safely handling a rifle and give them a chance to sharpen their shooting skills on clay targets. The class will also include a laser simulator so students can practice a hunt on screen. The class will be held in the picnic area behind the hatchery building. 9:30 a.m. – 3:30 p.m. Archery. Instructor: Chris Berry Chris works for the Lawrence County Sheriff’s Department, is a hunting guide, a world class competitor, and is sponsored by Alpine Bows. The class will be held in the picnic area just north of the hatchery. Students will receive hands on basic archery training. Students who attend this class will be eligible to enter a drawing for an Alpine Bow. 10:00 a.m.- Arrowhead Knapping. Instructor: Leon Perry Leon is a retired school administrator and an avid archer. Class will be in the green area next to the hatchery office. Learn the art of knapping to make an arrowhead out of obsidian rock. Leon will also demonstrate how to mount an arrowhead on a cedar arrow and how to attach turkey feathers for fletching. 10:00 a.m. Snakes Alive. Instructor: Cheyne Matzenbacher Cheyne is one of the Naturalist at Roaring River. Class will be held at the park amphitheater just south of the CCC Lodge. His program will teach kids about the natural history of snakes. Live specimens will be available to see. 10:00 a.m.- 2:00 p.m. Fly Tying and Fly Casting. Instructors: MAKO Fly Fishing Club. Fly casting will be in the hole downstream from the bridge across from the CCC Lodge, while fly tying will held under a tent set up near the fly casting area. Experienced fly tiers will set up a table and do fly tying demonstrations. Other members will be on hand to work with kids one on one to teach fly casting. Students who attend the fly casting part of this class will be eligible to enter a drawing for a complete fly fishing outfit. 10:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Critter Stamp Headbands. Instructor: Peggy Dittmar and Char Pipolo Critter stamps will be available for children to make and decorate their own headband. The class will be held under the large tent. 10:00 a.m.-12:00 a.m. Stream Table Display Instructor: Ron Bullard Ron works for the Dept. of Conservation in Springfield and will conduct an ongoing display to illustrate the hydraulics of a stream. The effects of an action such a channeling or digging in a stream will be shown. Bank stabilization methods will also be demonstrated. The class will be held near the blue tent. 10:00 a.m.- 3:00 p.m Introduction to Taxidermy. Instructor: Russ Pendergraft Class will be under the big tent. Russ owns “Visions of Wildlife Taxidermy Studio” in Cassville. He will have an ongoing demonstration where he prepares a rainbow trout mount. Kids can visit his demonstration throughout the day. Russ is also donating a free fish mount to the winner of a drawing for kids who caught a fish over larger than 3 lbs. 10:30 a.m. Becoming a Conservation Agent. Instructor: Travis McLain Travis has been a Conservation Agent for 9 years. He will instruct students on the requirements to be eligible to become an Agent. Travis will also demonstrate interesting equipment he uses in his job and talk about his job duties. Class will be held under the big tent. 10:30 a.m. Aquatic Entomology. Instructor: Rick Horton Class will be in the blue tent. Rick works for the Missouri Dept. of Conservation as a Fishery Biologist in Neosho and will help students identify what types of insects live in the stream and how they relate to fish as food organisms and what flies are tied to imitate them. 11:00 a.m. Jig Tying. Instructor: Jerry Dudley Class will be held under the big tent. Jerry is a very good fisherman and experienced jig maker. Kids will have hands on experience and learn to tie their own jig. Jerry will also demonstrate jig fishing methods using an aquarium. 11:00 a.m. Fish Cleaning. Instructor: Josh Roller and Brad Farwell Class will be held near the hatchery office. Both Josh and Brad work for the Department of Conservation at Roaring River. They will have a hands on demonstration on preparing trout, bluegill, and catfish for cooking. 11:30 a.m. Fish Cooking. Instructor: Rod May Class will be held next to hatchery office. Rod works as Assistant Manager at the Neosho National Fish Hatchery. He will demonstrate frying and grilling methods for cooking catfish and trout. 1:00 p.m. How to Fish Roaring River. Instructor: Marvin Farwell Class will be held on the green next to the hatchery office. Marvin works for the Department of Conservation at Roaring River Hatchery and is a very good fisherman. He will instruct kids on types of bait that are legal for each fishing zone in the park, what type of knot to use to tie a hook on, how to rig a pole and how to fish with the various types of bait and lures. 1:00 p.m. Snakes Alive. Instructor: Cheyne Matzenbacher Cheyne is one of the Naturalist at Roaring River. Class will be held at the park amphitheater just south of the CCC Lodge. His program will teach kids about the natural history of snakes. Live specimens will be available to see. 1:00 p.m.-3:00 p.m. Make Your Own Tee Shirt. Instructor: Rebecca Bishop Rebecca will instruct kids on coloring an iron on “Trout Day” transfer created by Kendra Gardner and Tyler Long. Volunteers will be on hand to apply the finished transfer to kids’ free tee shirts. We will have 300 transfers and tee shirts to give away. This class will be held under the large tent. 1:30 p.m. Fisheries Biology. Instructor: Rick Horton Rick works as a Fisheries Biologist for the Department of Conservation in Neosho. The class will cover the unique characteristics of many different species of Missouri fish, their habits, where they live, and their physiology. The class will be held under the blue tent. 2:00 – 3:00 p.m. Fly Tying. Instructor: Charlie Stock Class will be held under a tent set up near the fly casting area across from the CCC Lodge. Charlie is a professional fly tier an also owns Mid-West Flies. Charlie will work with kids one on one to help them tie their own fly. 2:30 p.m. Knot Tying Instructor: Kevin Asbury Kevin is Assistant Manger at Roaring River hatchery. He will have a hands on class teaching two easy, fast, and strong knots to tie a hook on to your line. Students will be able to tie the Fisherman’s knot and the Palomar knot by the end of the class 2:30 p.m. Hatchery Tour. Instructor: Cheyne Matzenbacher Tour will meet on the walkway leading to the Spring. Cheyne is a naturalist at Roaring River. His program will teach kids about the geology of Missouri’s 20th largest spring, the history of Roaring River State Park and hatchery, the life cycle of the trout, how they are raised and stocked in the stream. 2:30 p.m. Knife Sharpening. Instructor: Jay D Browning and Dennis Browning Class will be held at the green area next to the hatchery office. Jay D is a long time fisherman at Roaring River and Dennis, Jay D’s son works in Wildlife Management for the Department of Conservation. A good sharp knife is a good thing to have in so many outdoor activities. Jay D and Dennis will show kids the right way to sharpen a knife. Bring your own pocket knife to sharpen. 3:00 p.m. Fish Cleaning. Instructor: Josh Roller and Brad Farwell Class will be held near the hatchery office. Both Josh and Brad work for the Department of Conservation at Roaring River. They will have a hands on demonstration on preparing trout, bluegill, and catfish for cooking. 3:30 p.m. Fish Cooking. Instructor: Rod May Class will be held next to hatchery office. Rod works as Assistant Manager at the Neosho National Fish Hatchery. He will demonstrate frying and grilling methods for cooking catfish and trout. 3:30 p.m.-4:30 p.m. Fly Casting. Instructor: Charlie Stock The class will be taught at the first hole downstream from the bridge across from the CCC lodge. Charlie owns Mid-West Flies. He will teach the basic casting techniques. The hole directly downstream from the bridge across from the lodge will be reserved for fly casting classes. Students who attend this class will be eligible to enter a drawing for a complete fly fishing outfit. 3:30 p.m. How to Fish Roaring River. Instructor: Marvin Farwell Class will be held on the green next to the hatchery office. Marvin works for the Department of Conservation at Roaring River Hatchery and is a very good fisherman. He will instruct kids on types of bait that are legal for each fishing zone in the park, what type of knot to use to tie a hook on, how to rig a pole and how to fish with the various types of bait and lures.
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chief, don't worry we still get to fish often. i just don't want to take my kids to a place where there's trash scattered everywhere. don't get me wrong...i'm not opposed to beer cans...believe me they've seen a lot of them, but i am opposed to the people that leave them. we went down by powell on the big sugar saturday morning. we had a good time, but I would like to find another good place closer to home. we really like the undercliff campground...too bad it closed. hopefully they'll open up again next year.
