You know, another person we need to apologize to is Bill. He is the moderator of this site and catchs crap from everybody. He has to put up with all that goes on here and sort through everything to try and make people happy, which is an impossible job. People need to relax and take others fishing reports with a grain of salt. People need to grow up and stop worring about what another person did or said. We are not in high shcool people, so leave the drama out. People like Bill and Gone Fishing and everybody else are on this forum for one reason, fishing. Just because one person said they caught them this way or that way and caught so many means nothing. Just because someone caught them and you didnt means nothing. There is a theory of being at the right place at the right time and it happens. So just look at the patterns of what people are doing and not take them word for word. Most people arent going to give up their complete pattern. Just take it as a ball park starting point and do what you do best, find the fish on your own! Bill and Gone Fishing, I apoligize for the immaturity level of others. People need to loosen up and not take things so serious. Thats my $.02 worth.