I haven't personally hit them at night. It's been on the list, but never made it out last night. I have read alot about guys following the shad just like spin fishing. If you can get them shallow enough, there are one or two old timers who swear by a big mouse pattern, stripped across the top of the water as fast as you can. I am helping a buddy on Beaver with guiding crappie, so I plan on sampling some crappie on the fly rod as well. Who needs stinkin' cold water????