jdmidwest

You forgot over predation by otters that were introduced by the MDC a few years ago for fish control.

Whoa. Ron, 10 Mile Creek is almost totally encased in private property. That is why you don't hear much about it. Acess is limited and fishing is ok, not great. Watch your back and your vehicle when you try it out. It has a good population of cottonmouths also.

Tim, I took the quote that he was talking about as you expecting the Agriculturists to donate some of their harvest to outweigh the share the harvest program. The Share the Harvest does several things. One, it actually puts meat on the tables of people that will eat and enjoy it from persons that only hunt for the sport and not the meat. Secondly, it helps to control the burgeoning population of deer that are exceeding the carrying capacity of the land they are managed on. MDC sets the limits on the harvest and encourages hunters to meet them to control the population to keep the herd vigorous and healthy. Thirdly, it benefits the sportsman, outdoor industry, MDC in tags, and it controls deer damage to crops and auto insurance rates, increasing revenue. Agriculturists, formerly known as farmers, run their business for personal gain. They plant the crops or grow the animals for a profit. Profit is the excess amount from the business cost that they receive to support their own family. If they have an excess, then they have an option to donate it like the hunters. Your comments bring up government subsidies to farmers to create a surplus in my mind, which would normally drive the commodity price down, cutting into the profit. The government agrees to subsidize the farmer to increase his profit in order for him to create a surplus and keep the markets in line. But then the government regulates the pollutants that the farmer creates and runs off into the streams and penalizes him. They regulate the labor the farmer uses on his farms, his kids now have to look for jobs at McDonalds because the farm has been deemed too dangerous for young adults. They mandate ethanol regulations to divert the corn to fuel and feed prices soar. The EPA makes it harsh on pig farmers and the smell, so they give up their business and prices rise. They demand testing on all cattle for mad cow and other diseases, mandate keeping records on the herd from birth to market, prices rise. And we all lose as more of our taxes are spent in ways we do not really need them to be.

Don't worry everyone, with the free birth control coming our way, the population will decline to the point that the game population will be back in balance. Of course, in a few more years, government will bring us our allotted fish to our front door, compliments of the rich folks.

Years ago we sent stuff to the troops in Iraq, but that war is over now. Local youth groups, parks and recreation in your town, maybe even a church if you want to donate them. Have a yard sale and sell of some of her shoes or things that she may collect also while you are at it.

Well, the setup finally worked and I trapped my first coyote today, a nice mature male. The restraint fired and trapped him clean around the neck. The ground anchor held and so did the wire. He had a nice catch circle cleared out, but was patiently waiting for me to come along with the 22 to let him go. Had it been a neighbor's dog, I could have walked up and let it loose, no worse for the wear, just like putting it on a lead. The coyote just had a little rope burn around its neck, of course it was wild and never been leash broke.

Not anytime in the near future. Right now I think the herd is only in the 30's and confined to the Peck Ranch.

Have not heard about the Brookies. They were raising them for parasite control, they never said they were going to release them to catch. The second round of elk are being trapped in Ky. Since they have done it once, they know what they are doing now and should not have the issues they did last time. This time there is less publicity and fanfare. And, hopefully, below budget on the cost.

I can show you how to do that with a can, it was common practice in my younger days... Was reading an old Herter's Guide Manual that suggested you sink your cans in the lake. Of course, back then they were make of steel and rusted after a time.

I can't believe you all let one of my threads run on this long. It has not happened for a long time. Even the changeover from the original post, which had nothing to do with Concealed Carry, and we are still going.

Lets go for 15.

Here are the Ozarks Scenic Riverways rules and National Park Service laws, it outlaws Jello Shots but not whiskey. Other streams are not covered outside of the National Park Service. http://www.nps.gov/ozar/parkmgmt/lawsandpolicies.htm http://www.nps.gov/ozar/parkmgmt/alcohol-policy.htm http://www.nps.gov/ozar/parknews/controlling-rowdiness-on-the-rivers.htm

Does he carry a permit to correct grammar?

I like the yukon gold, it has a flavor that already suggests that it is buttered. It is a russet of sort with a yellow inside, makes a nice baked potato, or in green beans. I like little red potatoes also, I cook with them all summer on the grill and in stews. I use russets for frying or chips. I buy my potatoes fresh at a local produce store. I don't really have room to grow them and any place to store them. Red potatoes were what we grew on the farm growing up, they stored well in the cellar thru the winter with a little lime on them. You have to have pretty loose organic soil to grow them.

Oh ya, Bison Ale from the Crown Valley Brewery. There is a little Cajun Bar and Grill on the square in Fredricktown that has Moose Drool on tap, which is better than a bottle or can. Food is good too, just pack a pistol as it is a rough crowd. As far as glass in established MO campgrounds, it is legal. The law was to prevent the broken glass on the streambeds and the cuts it was causing to feet. Most FS agents are checking at accesses during the summer for glass. There are a few private campgrounds in Ark that don't allow it in the campground either.

People kill people for no reason at all. It started with Cain and Able and has been going on thru time. According to the FBI, violent crimes have declined since states have allowed conceal or personal carry. It is a deterrent more than anything, a safety net if you need it. Trouble is, most criminals do not think straight like normal humans, they act on rage or desparation, you can not predict what they will do. It will never make sense, but sticking your head in the sand and pretending it could not happen to you is plain ignorance.

It depends on the snows, some farmers hate them and will allow you to go after them because of the destruction they cause. Some farmers lease out the ground to hunters so they will be off limits. I have never really targeted snows, it seems like they leave out here around the end of Jan when the conservation order starts. The article on Outdoor Life suggested using a cell phone, most have the capability to play mp3. The old Blackberry I used has a problem with the antenna for the phone connection. But it works for the rest of what I needed it for. The rest was available at the local Radio Shack.

Muzzleloading season has really changed since its inception. It started out as a disadvantaged hunt with primitive weapons and evolved in to something almost along the lines of a hunt with modern weapons. I still hunt with my Hawken Rifle and Hawken Pistol. I picked up a Thompson Center White Mountain Carbine this fall at a shop to try next year. Modern muzzleloaders, inlines, scopes, electronic ignition, powder pellets, and now modern centerfire pistols will just increase the harvest. But the herd needs increased harvest, so it is not really a big deal. Look how Archery has changed thru the years. I started with a traditional longbow and moved up to a compound. My compound bow from the 80's would be the modern equivalent of a percussion rifle.

The ones that carry for self defense are not worried about being heros. Note the part about "self defense". Concealed carry is for personal protection and your family which you owe some responsibility. Most are not going to run in and break up something that does not involve them personally because they are Carrying Concealed. If you are lucky and can't defend yourself, they will dial 911 and let the pros help you.

Most "outdoorsmen" have lost perspective on what it really means. Understanding nature and enjoying it to its fullest. Going out for a good day in the woods and enjoying the fine day that God had given you. Take some food for the table, catch some fish for relaxation and enjoyment, it is not a job but a passion. Kick back on the boat and feel the warmth of the sun, listen to the ripples of the water. Don't make it a competition, mine was bigger than yours. That adds stress. Then you make a JOB. You will not see the meaning of what you have to enjoy. Unless it is a friendly competition you share with a friend. MDC does a good job for the most part. Most of the employees I deal with are great and really care about what they do. I think the article is some BS created from someone with a hardon for the MDC.

I did not think you would run over your Glock and pick it up and start shooting without checking it out thoroughly for obstructions, but I did not want the gun newbies to think that you could get away with that. Your 1911 and 686 should be safe to drop without them going off. Series 80 on the 1911 added a hammerblock to the original design. That is why series 70 and earlier are so popular and why they started making them again a few years back, for some ungodly reason. It must be a trigger thing. My Officers is a series 80, I carry cocked and locked with one in the chamber. The 686 is the same, it has a safety to prevent an accidental drop. But, many older firearms will go bang if the hammer strikes something hard in a fall and ignites the primer. AD, accidentally discharge happens, that is why they call it accidental. I have one famous AD, it was on a Single Six Ruger 22, 3 screw, old style, one night in the house after I went out to shoot a possum in the chicken coop. I went to drop the hammer and put it on safety nock, slipped, and put one into the floor in the bedroom. Dad never missed a beat in his snoring in the next room. Years later, we pulled up the carpet and reverted back to the original hardwood floors and there it was, a slug in the floor under my bed. 30 years later and I spilled the beans.

In reality, a self defense shooting takes place in close quarters. It is harder to shoot close range under pressure than it is to shoot at a target with a sporting arm at hunting ranges. You don't have the time to stop, take aim, breath, release the air, squeeze the trigger. Its threat, draw, identify and make decision, fire. Most of the time, 7 yards is where you will need to practice. If the threat is 30 yards away, you should have time to evade and escape, avoiding a need for a firearm. In self defense, you are being attacked in a home, getting out of your car, etc. You will not be engaging a sniper that wants to shoot you and steal your stuff. Try spinning with the target behind you and shooting 2 to the heart and one to the head with a strange firearm and see how you can do in a timed drill. Or do it with multiple targets behind you, pick out the bad guy between 2 friendlies and do it in a timed drill. Advanced courses are really fun.

Eric is a sadist and loves to torture for no reason, I just kill outright. Cable restraints are the humane way to trap, it does no harm to the animal. It essentially leashes it until the trapper returns to dispatch it or sell it live to someone that lets his dogs chase it. I use them for cheap predator control. The predators are killing my innocent little bunnies that we raise for profit. What is this thing called PETA anyway?

Outdoor Life did an article for the Feb. issue. Download the sounds from the web, buy a small amplified speaker from Radio Shack and (optional) a bull horn speaker from online or Radio Shack also, cables to hook them up. I picked up the amp powered by a 9 volt battery and downloaded some mp3's to an old Blackberry I had and made a pretty nifty little game call for $14. Google "game sounds" or "varmit mp3" and you can find a ton of them. Varmits, waterfowl, deer, and turkey. Just don't try to use the deer and turkey or the waterfowl during the respective seasons as a call as electronic calls are prohibited. Will work for varmit hunting and snow goose during the conservation order part.

I planted lettuce and radish seeds today to get the garden off to a bang. The beds I covered on Sat. had dried out nicely and the dirt worked up fine. The rest of the garden is a mud pie. Ness, The glass heats up the soil and gives me a head start on the cole crops. It also helps control the temp and moisture. Last year when I set them up, I put a remote thermometer and monitored it from the desk. It would heat up greatly even on a cold day and hold the temp well above the outside temp later on into the night. This helps the germination. The glass is about 6 inches above the dirt line, My beds are made from 1x12x10' scrap boards that some of our product was crated in. I filled them with store bought topsoil and manure about half way. They are on a slight slope in the back yard facing the south. They get full sun all day.