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You can make hot glue eggs of any size and color, they are attached to the hook, and they catch fish. This eliminates the pegging issue altogether. And, it is a fly in MO if you add a little thread. I believe I posted some pattern pics when I went to AK a few years ago on here in the fly tying section. I used them in AK and have used them here, they work.

I have never used them in Missouri for trout, but they should work. If you peg them, then you are not really fishing with a fly per MO's definition so you would probably not want to try them in fly only areas. You are essentially fishing with a bare hook. In Alaska, where Dollies and Trout feed on eggs from the many salmon spawning in a river, they work great. As far as the pegging issue, I don't think I ever had a fish swallow a hook and all were released in great shape. You can't do that with a lot of other techniques. There are limits on how far up from the hook to peg it, mine was always about an inch. I tried other patterns because the dollies we fished for were so easy to catch with beads. But, the bead was the best producer.

Be sure to freeze it for a while to kill any lice or eggs on it. I don't know about pheasants but ducks are usually loaded with duck lice. The lice may not ruin the pelt but other bugs that may have laid eggs on it will. Or you could separate the feathers from the skin and bag them in airtight bags. I have been using citronella in my tying supplies to keep bugs out. I also cut up a flea collar and toss it in every now and then for good measure. Both smell a whole lot better than moth balls.

If you drink too much in public the charge would be "public intoxication". If it caused a fight, assault. If you are not old enough to drink, minor in possession. If you drive home after a float, DUI or DWI. If drugs are involved, drug charges apply. If you show your boobies, Public Nudity. If someone asks you to, Solicitation. We all know there is a problem. We all know where the problems occur. Law enforcement knows there is a problem. Forestry Service and MDC knows there is a problem. Arrest the problem and teach the problem a lesson and stop the problem with existing laws. The problems occur on the Current River, Jack's Fork River, Upper Black River, and the Huzzah. If you are on certain sections of these rivers during the summer on Saturday afternoon and to some extent Sunday, don't take young kids or anyone that may be offended by the above behavior. If you want a peaceful family fishing trip, go during the week, float early in the morning, or float any of the other beautiful streams in Mo. Truth be known, counties enjoy the tax revenue brought in to the motels, canoe liveries, food and liquor joints by the drunken party animals.

If those were from Missouri, there would have been a black bear and an otter in the pic too. Kinda reminds me of the 10 ft rattlesnake with the grain bins in the background, a hoax also.

Nice Tye, how does it cast soaking wet?

It has been years since I was there also. It was always a put and take fishery, stocked from March to Oct. with exceptions during the summer when water temps were above 70. Fishing was good for several weeks till all were caught out. I have in the past fished it during the winter months and picked up a few nice holdovers.

I think it is a Hatchery Problem first and a Federal Problem second. I don't think any of the Missouri Hatcheries are set up to raise either of the fish. When stocking occurs of the Brown trout, they come in from a hatchery as a fingerling and I think that Shepard of the Hills is the only one that raises them. Don't know for sure anymore, I don't spend alot of time with hatchery personnel like I used to. Since most trout streams in Mo. are in Federal waters governed by the Forestry Service, they have a say in what can be stocked as to protect native species. That may be the second reason. Carrying capacity of some of the streams may affect it also as well as crossbreeding with Rainbow strains and Cutthroat. I could see it happening in Taneycomo as it has in the Ark portions of the White River system. It probably won't happen in any other streams. A majority of streams rely on the stocking to sustain the trout with the exceptions of Crane Creek, Mill Spring Creek, and some of the other minor streams. Even some of them are stocked by fish migrating from the stocking points.

White fronts have been pretty common this year, they will decoy to Canadas. They are also called Specs. They are not very vocal, I usually use a few calls from a snow goose call to get their attention. I have seen several flocks come thru back during deer season and they were pretty thick over in Union Cty Il Refuge last week when I went thru there. On my reservation back Dec. 1, there were several flocks of Specs using the refuge field next to ours but we were not able to get them across. Winters have been so mild the last several years, we don't see many Canadas. Brant are a sea bird and fly the Pacific and Atlantic Flyways. Probably won't see many in the Mississippi Flyway. I got out today, 3/4" sleet and ice on roads this morning going to Duck Creek, all gravel roads were Ice. Busted 1/2" ice to timber blind this morning, left at 9:00, no ducks. Nothing was flying the timber, all were using crop fields.

+1 for BRB. Our elected officials need to spend more time on important legislature. I really wish the kids could float the stream through our properties like I did when I was a kid, but due to poor forestry and land management, it is choked up with gravel. But, legislature and government does not worry about things like that. When I was a kid, you could float a john boat thru the entire length, now you could not even float a kayak empty without dragging it. Throughout the entire watershed, timber has been stripped off, farms cleared to the creek banks of timber, and poor soil conservation has killed my stream. And it is killing alot of streams. Its not the beads or jello shots that is hurting the majority of float streams in MO.

I had not noticed the increase in the woodies, good thing to know as I am hunting timber at Duck Creek tomorrow. What exactly is a mottled duck anyway? Early season geese was over back in early October, now the bag limit is 2.

Spend some time reading about each of the rivers on here and you should learn alot about any of the rivers. Each have their good points and strengths. One thing to consider is whether you want to catch and keep or just fish. Areas with regulations would limit the techniques and amounts of fish you could take. Many of the sections of each river are better at certain times of the year. Some receive more float traffic than others. Or, you could just float them all and give your own opinion on here.

BRB, that is a major challenge on a day when birds are flying good. Early morning and on dark days, it is really hard to tell the difference in the drakes and the hens. All species have limits so you really need to pick your shots carefully. Mallards can only be 2 hens, 2 wood ducks, no canvasbacks, and one scaup. Most hunts that are good leave you to have to pick and choose to carefully fill your limit. I made an amazing shot on a flock of 30 teal before deer season. The crossed the decoys in a tight flock and I shot one time and missed. I could only kill one more and I was done so I was aiming at a low single and not the flock....I missed the whole flock luckily!

Looks like the local winter trout program is dead for this year around here. I fished it in November after the time change and did not have any luck. Water was green with algae and did not get any bites. Now it looks like most of the fish have died off and who knows what shape the rest are in. Published Dec 16, 2008 Trout in Jackson lake succumb to copepod parasite A parasite that is killing trout recently stocked into Jackson City Park's Rotary Lake is not harmful to humans, a Missouri Department of Conservation fisheries management agent said Monday. Over the past month, about 500 of the 1,300 trout released into the lake Oct. 30 have been found dead along the shore of the lake, said Salvador Mondragon of the Cape Girardeau Regional Office of the conservation agency. The trout appear to have been killed by a small crustacean called a copepod that attaches itself to the gills and inside the mouth of the fish, Mondragon said. "Usually when you open the mouth, they will be on the tongue or underneath the gill cover," Mondragon said. "It looks like small maggots attached to the gills. It is really easy to notice." The copepods contributing to the death of the fish do not attach themselves to other species in the lake such as bass, crappie, bluegill or channel catfish. Trout that are properly cleaned and cooked to 140 degrees are safe to eat even if infected with most parasites, the conservation agency said in a news release. But no one is supposed to be eating the trout at this time of year. Rotary Lake is stocked with trout each year, generally in early November, when water temperatures drop low enough to keep the cold-water loving fish alive. Over the late fall and early winter months, Rotary Lake is limited to catch-and-release fishing for trout. A season for catching and keeping trout from the lake opens Feb. 1. As water temperatures rise above 65 degrees during the spring, the surviving trout die off. The copepod species infecting the fish also will die off in warm water, Mondragon said. The fish die-off is being studied to determine if it is worth the cost and effort to restock the lake before anglers are allowed to keep the fish, Mondragon said. The source of the parasitic copepods is an open question, Mondragon said. They could have infected the fish at the hatchery, he said. But other lakes stocked around the same time have been checked and no significant fish kills have been reported, he said. That means other factors at Rotary Lake may be contributing to the kills, perhaps too much fertilizer runoff or a lack of food, he said. There have not been a lot of complaints from anglers using the lake, said Shane Anderson, director of parks and recreation for Jackson. On the Monday before Thanksgiving, he said he noticed 20 to 25 dead fish floating in the water. Typically a few fish die soon after stocking due to the stress of being moved, he said. The next day, Anderson said he walked around the lake and saw about "200 fish gasping for their life, and they were all trout. We took an oxygen level of the lake, because it looked like they were all having trouble breathing." The copepods make it difficult for fish to breathe when they attach themselves to the gills. Anderson said he has been removing the fish from the water as they die, keeping a count for the conservation agency and waiting for lab results to confirm whether the copepods contributed to the deaths or whether some other condition in the lake is to blame. Cold weather and poor fishing conditions have keep the number of anglers, and complaints, down, Anderson said. "The common individual thinks there is something wrong with the lake but it is just pertaining to the trout themselves," Anderson said. rkeller@semissourian.com 388-3642 Does this affect you? Have a comment? Log on to semissourian.com © Copyright 2008, Southeast Missourian Story URL: http://semissourian.com/article/20081216/N...12169956/-1/RSS

Around here, closer to ground zero, there will be massive damage. Most bridges will fail, infrastructure will be shut down for days. I don't sit around and worry about it all of the time but I have thought about it some. I do have the camper if the house is damaged. If I can make it back from where I am at. Back in the late 80's there was a guy that predicted that one would happen on a certain date and everyone stocked up and prepared for it. Nothing came about except for a small 4.0, 6 months early. But like you said, a country boy will survive.

The limits are 2 Canadas, 2 White Fronts, 1 Brant, and 20 Snow Geese. You could have stayed out longer and waited for others to come thru. White Fronts decoy to Canada decoys or Snow decoys. They are good to eat also and come to a call pretty good. Snows are a different story, you would have probably have to put out a bigger spread for them.

Since the 90's, I have watched the Seismic Activity of the local area on the net. The prediction of a major event coupled with some pretty major seismic events really peaked my interests. We go thru periods of tremors then quiet times. This year, we have seen some motion on the New Madrid fault and the Wabash Valley fault along with isolated tremors in Hot Springs and the Mt Carmel incident that has been quiet since I was a kid in the 60's. It is a different pattern than normal. One of these days, the New Madrid fault system is going to let go of some pressure like it had done in the past. Has anyone really gave it much thought or do you just plan on coping with it when it happens? Any Geologists on here want to comment? Wabash Valley Seismic Zones St Louis University Seismic

Sounds like a good hunt. This system should freeze them out up north and the next few weeks should be grand. I bank alot of my time off till the last few weeks of the year and it is not because I like to spend time with the family during the holidays!

We all know that we will be losing the free TV in February so the FCC can free up some airwaves for other uses. I personally think that it is a scam, I will be losing TV in my camper and Radio broadcasts from my local stations on my battery powered radio in case the power fails. But the upside is that there is a startup company that is trying to blanket the US with broadband internet using these frequencies and there is a vote coming about on Dec. 18 whether or not they can do it. Looks like a good idea. Local telecoms have failed to offer any solutions in my area. AT&T will not go any further, Verizon does not cut it here either. Sat internet is plagued by the same problems as Sat TV, wind, rain, and ice black it out. At least this company seems to offer some alternative. Click on the link and let the Government officials hear your voice. M2Z Network support link, email your reps. Startup banks on making money from free broadband (AP) * Posted on Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:08PM EST * Add articles about technology to your My Yahoo! add to My Yahoo! WASHINGTON - For the past three years, a startup called M2Z Networks has been figuring out a way to blanket the nation with a free wireless broadband network to ensure all Americans have access to basic high-speed Internet connections. Along the way, the company has found support in powerful corners of Silicon Valley and Washington. It has attracted funding from several of the Valley's top venture capital firms. And it has captured the interest of Kevin Martin, the chairman of Federal Communications Commission, who is backing a plan essentially mirroring the M2Z proposal as a way to promote universal broadband. Finally, this month, the company was nearing a breakthrough. Martin pushed for a full FCC vote on his plan, which would set the rules for auctioning off the slice of wireless spectrum that M2Z wants to put its ideas into action. But opposition forces gathered steam, deferring M2Z's dreams for now. Led by T-Mobile USA, the nation's wireless carriers have been lobbying to defeat Martin's proposal, which they say would interfere with their own services. The Bush administration wasn't happy either: It urged the FCC not to proceed with an auction that would favor one company's business model. And some key Democrats on Capitol Hill called on the agency to hold off on controversial items — which would include the M2Z plan — until the Obama administration takes over. Facing such objections, Martin canceled the Dec. 18 vote on the free broadband idea. The proposal remains in circulation at the FCC, and M2Z is suing the agency to gain access to the slices of the airwaves that it needs. But now it looks like the company will have to wait until next year to know its fate. Although President-elect Barack Obama has not taken an official position on M2Z, he has said that wireless services could be one important channel for bringing broadband to all corners of the country. And that could yet be good news for M2Z. What's at stake, insists M2Z co-founder Milo Medin, is a "lifeline" wireless broadband network that would provide basic connections for people who cannot afford the premium services offered by the big phone and cable companies or live in places where those services are unavailable. "We Americans are creating a two-tier digital society," Medin said. "If you're not connected today, you're really at a disadvantage. But we can remove barriers that isolate people from the digital domain." It's not clear exactly how many Americans have no access to broadband. According to a survey conducted in August by the Pew Internet & American Life Project, 57 percent of Americans subscribe to broadband at home. More people could get it, but choose not to buy it or can't afford it. One major advantage of wireless technology is that it could bring broadband to rural areas that the big phone and cable companies have abandoned as too sparsely populated to justify the necessary network investments. That's because it costs less to blanket large areas with a wireless signal than to lay down wires. Martin has proposed that the FCC auction a large chunk of airwaves to a company that would set aside 25 percent of the capacity for a free broadband service. Under his plan, the winning bidder would have to make that service available to 50 percent of the population within four years and 95 percent of the population within 10 years — or risk losing any remaining spectrum not yet being used. The concept, explained John Muleta, M2Z's other co-founder, is modeled after over-the-air television, which is available for free to anyone with a TV set whether or not they subscribe to cable or another premium video service. Founded in 2005, M2Z is a partnership between two broadband veterans. Muleta, 43, has done two tours of duty at the FCC. Between 1994 and 1998, he worked in the section of the agency that regulates landline phone companies. And between 2003 and 2005, he headed the wireless telecommunications bureau, where he oversaw policies on consumer wireless services and public safety radio networks. In between, Muleta held executive positions at PSINet, an early broadband provider that resold high-speed connections to corporate customers using facilities owned by the big phone companies. Medin, 44, was co-founder and chief technology officer of another broadband pioneer — (At)Home, which partnered with some of the nation's biggest cable operators to create the cable Internet market. Before jumping to (At)Home, Medin was a project manager at the NASA Ames Research Center in Mountain View, Calif., where he helped manage some of the early government networks that evolved into today's Internet. Although Muleta and Medin are based on opposite coasts — with Muleta in the Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C., and Medin in Silicon Valley — they share a common experience. Both worked at early broadband companies that relied on established telecommunications giants to provide the so-called "last mile" of network infrastructure needed to reach customers. And both of their companies landed in bankruptcy when their relationships with the phone and cable companies became unworkable. "The lesson learned is that you have to have the last mile in order to control your own destiny," Muleta said. "You need to have the direct relationship with the customer. Otherwise the company you rely on for that last mile will only let you survive only as long as it is in their interest." And that is where M2Z — which stands for "move transport to zero" and is also a play on the names of the founders' children — comes in. The company would build its own nationwide wireless network to connect consumers to the Internet, bypassing phone and cable lines. Muleta estimates it would cost $2 billion to $3 billion over a decade — plus the cost of the spectrum to be auctioned off — to build that network using new "spectrally efficient" technologies. Skeptics have questioned whether M2Z will be able to raise the money it needs — particularly in the current credit environment. The company has the backing of several prominent venture capital firms, including Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, although it won't say how much funding it has amassed. M2Z plans to deliver free wireless access with downstream speeds of 768 kilobits per second — roughly on par with a basic digital subscriber line (DSL) connection. To make money, M2Z would also offer a premium service with downstream speeds of 3 to 6 megabits per second for about $25 per month. In addition, because the company's wireless base stations will know where its users are located, M2Z hopes to partner with search engines, Web portals and online advertising networks to target local ads. One contentious component of M2Z's plan is its intention to offer a family-friendly network that would filter Web sites inappropriate for children — a proposal that has raised concerns among free speech advocates. M2Z has also run into fierce resistance from the wireless industry. As Medin sees it, the industry is "really nervous about an outsider coming in and wrecking the place" — upending a lucrative market for mobile services with free broadband. Officially, at least, much of the opposition is on technical grounds, especially from Deutsche Telekom's T-Mobile. In 2006, T-Mobile spent $4.2 billion for a large chunk of spectrum — including airwaves right next to the frequencies M2Z is eyeing — in order to build its own "third-generation" wireless broadband network. T-Mobile argues that M2Z's proposal would create interference for T-Mobile's customers. Although a report by FCC engineers in October concluded that technical safeguards would prevent interference with other wireless services, T-Mobile insists there will be problems in restaurants, airports and other high-density areas where people congregate. Chris Guttman-McCabe, vice president of regulatory affairs for CTIA-The Wireless Association, the industry's leading trade group, is also concerned that the FCC would essentially design an auction for a valuable chunk of airwaves around one company's business plan. As a result, he said, the auction would not attract nearly as many bidders — and would not raise nearly as much money for the Treasury — as a true, open competition. Martin rejects this argument. The goal of the spectrum auction, he said, should not be just to raise as much money as possible for the government, but also to bring broadband to all Americans. Despite falling just short of an FCC vote on the plan, Muleta insists M2Z will continue its campaign to gain access to the spectrum it needs — before and after the Obama administration takes over. "I'm optimistic," he said, "because this idea that we need to change the way the broadband market is structured has received serious consideration."

I think there has already been a movie about it. Maybe a longer yard 3.

Click on the link from the MODNR and look at the summer 07 issue regarding oil. Much of SE Mo and areas north of I-70 contain beds that may contain oil and natural gas. I hope they never mine the lead deposits around the 11pt watershed.

I generally Catch and Release most stream fish unless it is an area where the Kentuckies are a problem. I will keep bluegills and longears from streams but not goggle eye. I keep a few trout in put and take sections.

In Al's defense, he comes from the Lead Belt region of Missouri. Mining in this area is not subtle at all. Huge mounds of chat from mines laced with lead that leaches out every time it rains and the wind blows. Huge pit mines for lead, tiff, iron ore, and other minerals that are left behind when the companies pulled out in the 50's and 60's. Most left mining structures to rust in hulks and lots of tailings. Runoff affects streams and groundwater, and will continue to do so for a long time in the future. Even bore holes were left with the casings sticking out 2 foot or more to trip over or to snag a boat floating over them. This is the ugly side of mining, and fortunately, regulations prevent this from happening now. There will be a possibility of some new exploration in our neck of the woods. A plant started up a few years ago at Brewer, Mo. that produces a material for Fracting oil or methane out of the ground. My assumption is that it will be used locally and not trucked off somewhere else. Missouri has beds of oil, methane, and coal left to be tapped. If oil prices rise again, no doubt there will be some exploration of it in Missouri. Now, in the bootheel, Uranium is being explored for mining as we speak. Here are some good papers from the MODNR website, the Geologic Column of Missouri The Geologic Column of Missouri

Wow, what should be a convicted felon serving life in prison for multiple murders and mayhem is walking the streets and trying to carry concealed. Just because he was 11 was no excuse. Looks like he would have made it if he did not list a bogus address on his app. I am against any new gun laws, we have enough already, but seriously, how can he even own a firearm of any kind? Where did the system fail? Published Dec 11, 2008 Arkansas school shooter restarted his life after prison in Cape Girardeau LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Andrew Golden, who sat silently as a juvenile judge sentenced him into state custody for the deaths of four students and a teacher in a 1998 Jonesboro middle school shooting, disappeared just as quietly after a federal prison released him at age 21. While co-defendant Mitchell Johnson found himself in trouble with police within a year a half of his release, Golden went to Cape Girardeau, registering for a driver’s license and beginning a new life. He caught the attention of police only once, after losing control of a motorcycle along a rural two-lane state highway in northern Arkansas this spring. But by then, he was Drew Douglas Grant, a student at a Batesville community college. Then he applied for a state concealed-weapons permit. "It just doesn’t sit real good," said Craighead County Sheriff Jack McCann, who investigated the school shooting a decade ago and knew Golden’s family long before it. "He hasn’t been in any trouble since he got out and hopefully he won’t be. But still, he shouldn’t be allowed to carry a firearm." Golden applied for the permit Oct. 7, noting the seven hours of training he had taken on handgun fundamentals, ammunition, self defense and the law, and target shooting on a firing range. A training instructor wrote that Golden passed the classes and deemed him "successfully and safely qualified" to use a semiautomatic pistol. But during the background check, regulators with the Arkansas State Police matched the fingerprints he provided to those taken after his arrest for the March 24, 1998, shooting at Jonesboro Westside Middle School. State police spokesman Bill Sadler said investigators also noted that Golden left off an address he gave a deputy investigating his motorcycle crash, as well as another. The form requires applicants to list all the addresses they’ve lived at in the last two years. Golden lists Ravenden, the small town where his father runs the local post office, as his home from April 2002 to May 2006. However, during that period just before his 18th birthday, a judge sent Golden to a federal prison on an undisclosed weapons violation. Golden listed a home address in Evening Shade, a town of about 500 people 55 miles west of Jonesboro. Sharp County Sheriff Dale Weaver, whose deputies help patrol the small community, offered state police a letter objecting to Golden receiving a concealed weapons permit. "I felt (that) somebody who had been involved in something of that magnitude, even if he was 11 years old, would have left some kind of emotional problems," Weaver said. However, in the time since, Weaver said he’s not aware of his deputies ever running into Golden while on patrol. Even if they did, Weaver said it was likely his deputies would have never remembered, as Golden now lives under a new name. "If you saw a picture of him when he was a kid and one now, I don’t know even if you were a relative and lived here at that time if you would have known him with the beard and so forth," the sheriff said. In 1998, Golden pulled a fire alarm at the middle school, drawing students and teachers into a hail of gunfire. Golden and Johnson killed English teacher Shannon Wright and students Natalie Brooks, 11; Paige Herring, 12; Stephanie Johnson, 12; and Britthney Varner, 11. They wounded 10 others. Both Golden and Johnson are named in a civil suit filed on behalf of the victims’ relatives to stop the two from profiting from the slayings. During a hearing last month over a deposition Golden is to give in the civil suit, his mother Pat Golden acknowledged her son took a new name after his release from prison. She also said he now lives alone and attends a school, but did not offer any other personal details. A Drew Douglas Grant attends the University of Arkansas Community College at Batesville as a business services major in his third semester, said Tina Paul, a school spokeswoman. Paul declined to offer a birth date for the student. A telephone number on Golden’s concealed weapon permit was disconnected Thursday and a number in Evening Shade for him could not be found. Danny Glover, a Wynne lawyer representing Golden in the civil suit, did not return messages for comment. Sadler said Golden has 10 days to appeal the rejection after he receives the denial letter, sent by certified mail. Sadler said police investigators were examining whether criminal charges were warranted over the accuracy of the rejected application. In the time since Golden’s release, McCann said he’s spoken only once to Golden’s father, as process servers tried to find his son over the civil suit. McCann acknowledged many still bear hatred for Golden over the shooting, but said he knew of no threats against him. Still, McCann remains leery of the idea of Golden picking up a firearm. "It’s just hard to get over that he could have a concealed carry permit," the sheriff said. "I’m sure it’s legal, but I don’t think it’s right." © Copyright 2008, Southeast Missourian Story URL: http://semissourian.com/article/20081211/N...2129998/-1/news

Like most punishments, the money does not have a visible destination. The story does not clarify that, maybe the EPA, maybe to buy some carbon credits. It is apparently aimed at breaking up the factory farms. I could justify controlling the pollution from feedlots into streams, but methane gas buildup?