jdmidwest

And being compassionate enough to pass stuff along so we don't have to post another one like this.

Nice catch F&F. I have my eye on a 3.5 XDM at the shop. I have not owned an XD yet but have been wanting to try. Those are going to be on the hitlist.

The 3 gun competition is one that I can think of. It consists of a sporting event where you run a time course using a sidearm, shotgun, and AR15. The course is designed for hi capacity magazines in the sidearm and AR 15, extended tube in the shotgun. There are other competitions that use them too. Restricting a magazine to 10 rounds only requires a shooter to reload more often, it will not prevent gun violence. As far as the face to face sale of firearms from a private collection to another person, IE gunshow loophole, will be a hard one to enforce. Once again, it will not prevent any violent shootings. People that fail to pass a current background check will often dupe a friend or wife into buying one for them. That is illegal too. It happened recently in the Firefighter shooting last month, the felon was not able to buy a gun legally so he had someone else buy it for him. The buyer was arrested and charged for the illegal act of purchase for the felon, but it did not stop the shooting. Executive order 7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign. Proposed by Obama yesterday may help. I assume it will fund the NRA training programs and make more people competent gun owners and possible safer. 9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations. 10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement. 13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime. Those 3 will force law enforcement to take a more active role and the prosecution to actually convict the persons that cause this mess in the first place. They should have no effect on law abiding citizens that own firearms. Above all, educate people that they alone are responsible for their personal safety first and foremost. They are responsible for the actions of their family members. Hold the people that are to blame accountable for their actions. Don't penalize those that follow the rules.

Kind of hard to tell him what to do now. Like I, yes I said I, stated, it is information to prevent another tragedy like this from happening. I don't want to read another story about a father and two sons dead of hypothermia. And if he had been carrying a gun, he could have fired shots in the air to signal the search party. Gun shot sounds would carry far in the woods. I would have been carrying a gun with spare ammo.

Cmon, let her rip.

Yep. Pretty bad in there, they had not wiped the seat down in a while. I had to start the encounter with a "hover". Trapped there overnight with the smell would have been tragic. I would have died from the methane buildup long before hypothermia set in.

Like many, you condemn the firearm based on the looks. Many hunting rifles are using the .223 round. In full metal jacket form like you used in the guard, it was designed to comply with the Geneva Convention as a non expanding projectile. It became popular based on surplus ammo from the military, as did the .308 and the 7.62x39. Cheap brass and cheap practice rounds. But, all bullet manufacturers make expanding bullets to insert into the cartridge that makes it a proper hunting round. The bullet fragments and expands to a larger diameter creating more efficient wound channels to properly dispatch wild game. Full Metal Jacket military rounds are not allowed in MO for hunting purposes. They are for target or military. .223 expanding ammo is perfectly legal and is made for hunting. And for self defense, it is preferred over the military FMG for its lethality. I can tolerate the restriction on hunting magazines, I have 5 and 10 rounders I use for hunting game in MO. But I like 20 rounders for target shooting, that is what the gun was made with and balances with. And you are not in the guard, so you are not the militia any more? Do you still respect the oath to protect the Constitution of the USA? No disrespect, I honor your service to our country.

Why can't I own any weapon I want to buy? I don't use them for anything illegal. If I did, current background checks would prohibit me from buying one. I can go thru a background check, pay an outrageous tax, and own a fully auto if I desire. And with the AWB, I can still do it, it does not affect fully auto. I could still do it with the previous AWB. And with the full auto, I could really do alot of damage and still be legal. But, the same gun, semi auto like a majority of firearms, I am branded a threat and can't buy one off the shelf with almost the same criteria and no tax. Seems like they only want the tax. I hunt deer with an AR 15. I hunt coyote with an AR 15. I hunt groundhogs with an AR 15. I hunt feral hogs with an AR 15. I have owned and hunted with one since 1986. I am perfectly legal and responsible when I do it. I enjoy building new rifles based on the AR 15 platform, until recently when parts became extinct again. I really don't want to give up that luxury again.

Don't yell. Stinking Pond is a slough down river, a float camp located there. I assume you are talking about the hole where the island splits the river below 19 access. I have called it stair step hole or boat hole. Years ago there was a lodge of sort that had a stair step leading down to it. There was also a sunken boat in it. You go down hill past the foundation remnants to the old cemetary to access the end of the island split.

There are some farfetched things in there. But the parents of kids killed laughing and joking it up, I really don't care how strong you are, you lose a kid and you will not act like that. My problem has always been the fact that all were DOA, no other injured. And the second person that was reported. And all of the reports on the first day only mentioning 2 handguns, nothing else. Then it was an AR only. Do you really thing the gov is not capable of pulling it off?

I was not making light of the tragedy, just using it hoping to prevent something like this in the future. Some of my friends swear that I could live out of my vehicle for a week in any type of weather, but they have appreciated that also when I have stuff to spare. On any trip, there is usually one change of dry clothes and rain gear close by. I hardly wear cotton any more, poly, wool, goretex are all staples. I have sit out in an open kayak in the pouring rain duck hunting and been so comfortable that my snoring irritates my buddy. But I will be the last to ever say it could not happen to me. There was this one time at Baptist Access where I stripped down to jeans and a shirt and run up to use the pit toilet after fishing all day. Something happened and the door stuck, I was locked in, metal against metal froze in the 20 degree weather. I was able to get out after a little work prying the latch with my leatherman. But 20 degrees, night approaching, no warm clothing, food, or water, nobody really knew I was there, and chances of anyone coming along slim. I could have been toast if I had not gotten out.

Beer just shot out of my nose on that one......

Too Fast, Too Furious. They could not decide on the fiscal cliff, they can't come up with a budget to make the country fiscally responsible, they can't do anything but the "agenda". This is what we really should worry about. Watch this.

I have not seen any references to any preparation other than a flashlight and some food. Light clothing, not weather proof.

Here is a link from a local paper. Seems like the dad was x USAF. http://www.semissourian.com/story/1931414.html

Dam Brazilans....

It is so simple to toss a small survival kit in your back pocket, jacket, or day pack. A space blanket, some foil to make a cup, matches and tinder, a small led light, a compass can all be kept in an altoids size tin. I made up several years back and put them in my packs and vests. I added a few bandaids, butterfly bandaids, needle and thread, a few aspirins, cold medicine, and wetwipes. I personally carry a nice led flashlight, 2 knives, and a multitool on me at all times. And a pistol with few extra rounds, great for signaling. And the weather thing really gets me. I was planning a hiking/camping trip for that weekend also. When I first saw the extended forecast, I saw the temps and thought it would be a great weekend. By Wed., the NWS had already updated and predicted the rain and temperature drop, so we cancelled our plans. The National Weather Service forecasts at weather.gov are pretty accurate, just type in a zip code and see what to expect. He should have been more prepared for that also.

I read this in disbelief. It was the first I had ever heard about it. I had not seen it on any major news networks. Deforestation has led to the decline and possible extinction of a rather common species that has been around for thousands of years. 80 percent decline over the past few years. What will happen next? http://www.livescience.com/26233-bikini-wax-lice.html

It was a pretty hard thunderstorm with lots of fog rolling in before. Parts ot the area received 6-8 inches of rain overnight resulting in alot of flash flooding. Then the temps dropped from 65 to 35 pretty quick. Who knows, Dad may have gotten zapped by lightening, hurt himself? They are going to perform an autoposy. The area around Black is pretty rugged country, but they were on a well marked Ozark Trail that he had been on before according to the news.

I have seen muddy rivers for the first time since back in the early spring. Dad is trapped in at the farm, a huge tree is across our bridge. Waiting for the water to go down so we can cut it off. Now we need several more over the next few months to bring the water table back in line. Then a nice normal year in 2013.

Find a camper rental and pull one down. That would be the type of experience you are looking for on the Current from the way it sounds. I doubt if you are going to find lodging that is going to have a campfire that is reasonable. But a rental camper, or a friend that has one, in a campground with electric and other facilities seem to fit what you are describing. Look into that.

I just bought a 4pc, 4wt 8' Access rod and love it. I am told it uses the Helios technology with less exotic window dressing. I love it so far, light and responsive. I have only fished it a couple of times this fall.

So it only seems to reason that we need to offer some security in our schools to protect our kids.

I think they are all based on a Mauser Style action of WW1, so they are all military developed weapons. The Remington 700 series bolt actions have all been used in the military The Ruger 10-22 is a military clone rifle. The Mini 14 by Ruger is a clone of the 30 carbine used in Korea. The ever popular 30-06 and .308 cartridges were made popular by the military and became popular in civilian use because of a surplus of ammo after the wars. The same goes with .223 in the AR's. The Savage Pump Shotgun and the Winchester 1897 and Model 12 were military shotguns. The famous Winchester lever action rifles were used by the military in years past. So have many single action revolvers. The Colt 1911 pistol and many double action revolvers have been used in the military. Truth be known, if we are to assume the current knee jerk response to banning firearms used by the military, it would be hard to find one that does not have a connection. That is what makes the bad so sad, ban a firearm just because the military has used it?

No Chief, it is you that fails to offer a solution. You make every attempt to confuse the offer of concession on some matters. But you have not offered anything to solve the problem. What is your perfect solution. How would you stop it? What do you want to do? Enlighten us with your all knowing troll wisdom.