jjtroutbum

+1 What dano said!! I am still looking for a good deal on some mid weight polypro ( thinking GI issue polar fleece) as I type this. Got a get some before new years for sure.

Hi Brian welcome to OAF. There are plenty of pattern suggestions, and fishing reports located through out the board for R.R. as well as most of the regional waters.

I will be there and If anyone else is planning on fishing the night shift. I would probably be willing bring a spare bottle of "creamer."

I'll be there!! Full beard OAF black faded ball cap. Non members are always welcome.

B-ray Thank you for the process explanation with pictures. Very "Well Done" sir.

http://www.doi.gov/news/08_News_Releases/120508.html Thank goodness there has finally been a logical conclusion to the idea of self protection for law abiding citizens that had been disarmed for no more than illogical feel good B.S. policy.

Sounds like a fella could make a nice living repossessing docks on the lake for several years.

A friend would be a good idea. But a couple of other things would be. Head lamp and proper layering and a change of clothes in case of a trip leading to a dunking. Have fun and good luck.

Exactly what he said! Long gun or hand guns. Best way not to get ripped is to know there value and sell one at a time individually. Most gun shops will pay as little as possible for used guns. Any hand guns? If so let me know what ya got also.

elk hair caddis and olive woolly buggers. If you have those you can catch fish in Missouri.

Stick a tasty one Dennis!!! I have been having the pleasure recently of being able to do more fishing with my Dad. He has finally retired, and I am doing my best to keep him from falling into further debauchery by playing to much "Golf." Its his truck.

I'll be down around 10am in a Gold Dakota with four doors with a matching camper shell.

Welcome to OAF coach!!!! I am sure a few guys will chime in shortly. Not planing on fishing the park at all ? Catch and release season is a great time to scout and fish the park also.

If that isnt a classic it shurly will be. Nice fish. Good report

There is an advantage to using a longer rod but there is also disadvantages to the places you can use the but really the differences between 8'6" and 9' are well not that much. There is a Sage rod in your price range. Not really though is that price was for a complete outfit. My suggestion is to go to the St. Louis area fly shops and cast a few rods to figure out what action/speed/flex you prefer, as far as I know the big boxes don't offer this important option. A couple of links below. http://www.thargrove.com/ http://www.feather-craft.com/

Yep helps with the living vicariously part of on-line reports. I need to get down there and not be so dependent on others outings to help fight off my shack nasties. Thanks

Nice fish!! Could I be so humble as to request setting/scenery photos from your trips. For me that really is my favorite part of getting away to fish. Please don't get me wrong I like reports and fish porn is always a plus. JJ

I agree it should scare free people. And yes it is a piece that has been sensationalized maybe even factually distorted for effect. ( I did a little fact checking on it) I will totally admit it. Unlike those that feel guns commit crimes instead of criminals. "Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort the facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed." Sara Brady Chairman, Handgun Control Inc, to Senator Howard Metzenbaum The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3.

I use Ginks Maybe I don't need to use it but I do....lol Always wondered about the Sinks if thats what its called but i just mash my nymphs into the soft bank and this seem to get the extha air out.

I for the most part have no problems with the MDC. Are there things that they could do better? Absolutely but nothing is perfect and I will admit that as far as I know we have one of the best and a model department for the entire country. The things I don't care for have been changes that have come about in the last couple of decades such as a movement away from shooting sports and education, hunters education and a general feeling of the movement away from a mainly hunting and fishing promotion and an increased funding for butterflies , birdwatching, basket weaving and over priced nature centers. Looking at the contents of Missouri conservation magazine over the last 10 years has been enough to prove these changes to me. I think there should be more funding for more law/regulation enforcement and I mean boots on the ground. There is a need for continued land purchases to help fight over development and loss of habitat for hunting and fishing. And the fleecing of legal law/reg abiding hunters and fishermen is just away to bite the hand that feeds you. I absolutely do not support the loss or threatening the loss of the funding through repealing the sales tax the only reason this works as well as it does is it hopefully keeps the hand of the state reps and such out of the cookie jar, but certainly wish there was a better way to put more leverage on the commissioners of the MDC to appoint less PETA types to lead the department. I like fish and the fuzzy animals of Missouri. They taste great.

You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows. One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble. In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter. "What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask. "Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven." The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero. Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars. A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges. The judge sentences you to life in prison. This case really happened. On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk, England, killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term. How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ? It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns. Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns. Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed Man with a Kalashnikov rifle (AK-47), walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead. The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.) Nine years later, at Dunblane, Scotland, Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school. For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearm still owned by private citizens. During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released. Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands." All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars. When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens. How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kinda like cars. Sound familiar? WAKE UP AMERICA, THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION. "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." ––Samuel Adams

I don't think I have ever read a thread with less substance and more attacks buy such a new member on this board. Think I may go delete his welcome from me to the board. Since his manners are so lacking

The second amendment has nothing at all to do with hunting. Period. "I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason Co-author of the Second Amendment during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788 "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." George Washington First President of the United States I hope your right but Shall not be infringed is the way I read it. And seems he like he sure wants to "regulate." http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/...a.gun.sales.cnn http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_obama.html Gun laws/restrictions are only restricting the lawful gun owner. Criminals love gun control means more sheep for the wolves when you disarm the would be sheep dogs. ps. Anyone with a Yugo under folder and a case of wolf for it send me a PM.

A special thanks to all those who served for your and my freedoms. Great link Don thanks. I will pass this along to a couple of other boards.

Phil the last pic of the Bow is very nice.