Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted December 19, 2008 Root Admin Posted December 19, 2008 http://troutbeads.com or I carry a few patterns in my shop.
timsfly Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Trout beads are perfectly legal if the hook you are using has a bit of thread tied on it, and I have been doing just that and somedays they work great other days a regular old glo-ball works better, but the colors are good and you just need to find what the fish like, I have been pegging mine, and as long as you use a treaded hook, they won't get you in trouble and are legal anywhere a regular fly would be used. I have been sight fishing mine, haven't had any luck fishing them under an indicator. Tim Homesley 23387 st. hwy 112 Cassville, Mo 65625 Roaring River State park Tim's Fly Shop www.missouritrout.com/timsflyshop
Micheal Kyle Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 On Taneycomo and on the White I use a fly under the bead like a wooly bugger. I also sale them in my shop. When using it up in Alaska, New York, Pennsylvania, and up in Michigan with the chuck and duck system (using the lead and shooting line). It takes some skill to differeniate between the bottom and a fish. I do not resent you for your comment heck I do not even know who you are, thats why we live in the good old USA so we can say and think what we want and not get in trouble. As a guide when everything eles has failed you, it sure is nice to have an ace up your sleave. My job as guide is to make sure my client catches fish and has a great time. It is a last resort in my boat and sometimes it is a diffrence between a goose egg and a smile. Michael To Know People Is To Know Thier Ways!
Micheal Kyle Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 I just saw I have the mark so here is one more post to get me past the mark. Phil you should find some way to fix that so people wont have the mark just find some way to skip from 665 to 667 To Know People Is To Know Thier Ways!
Tightline Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Very classy response Michael. 2 thumbs up!!
Terry Beeson Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Naw.... It's that special "Power Bait and Green Giant Nibblets" fly Michael uses that actually assures his customers get fish.... Soooooo.... Using any other artificial bait/matieral is ok... so long as it's not pegged beads.... I'm SOOOO kun-fuzzed.... TIGHT LINES, YA'LL  "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
Micheal Kyle Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Terry, Terry Terry you might need to lay off the shine tonight To Know People Is To Know Thier Ways!
loo10 Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 It is a last resort in my boat and sometimes it is a diffrence between a goose egg and a smile. Michael I sincerely have my doubts it is the difference between a goose egg and a smile for you Mikey... but the modesty suits you well. Rich Looten Springfield, Missouri "If people don't occasionally walk away from you shaking their heads, you're doing something wrong."- John Gierach
fishinwrench Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Naw.... It's that special "Power Bait and Green Giant Nibblets" fly Michael uses that actually assures his customers get fish.... Soooooo.... Using any other artificial bait/matieral is ok... so long as it's not pegged beads.... I'm SOOOO kun-fuzzed.... That's the thing, it isn't unethical (to me) if the hook is attached to the bead and you have to physically interpret the strike and set the hook. The theory behind the bead pegging method works like this: The fish take the bead....the hook swings down against the fishes OUTER jaw-line...when the fish expells the bead the hook usually pokes the fish. If you are trying to "catch fish" using this technique and aren't getting it done, then quit "trying"...and you will. For best success do not try to interpret strikes, or set the hook. The rigging is basically a "snare". And that's all I'm gonna say....'bout that
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted December 19, 2008 Root Admin Posted December 19, 2008 "works like this: The fish take the bead....the hook swings down against the fishes OUTER jaw-line...when the fish expells the bead the hook usually pokes the fish." Sometimes. In my experience in AK, about 5% of the time. Not lying here to defend using it here- we hook our rainbows, sockeye and silvers 95% of the time in the mouth- that is the hook is all the way inside the mouth. I know your theory make sense but not in real time, or real fishing. Now here, with small rainbows, your statement may be more true. Of the few rainbows I've caught on beads - pegged - the hooks are in the mouth but not all the time. I understand what you're saying... there are quite a few guides in AK who don't like beads... but we out fish them everytime. And like Michael said, it's up to us to get people into fish- catch fish. If the client doesn't want to use beads- that's fine. But he has to understand the difference and what the results are. BTY- a bead slid onto the hook will not catch fish.
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