Moffitt Angling

[strangercreek]

It looks like something that is already used in a lot of cases, kind of like what Phil was describing in AK.

http://www.moffittangling.com/

I like the idea though. I might improvise something myself and try it.

[DD'sMC]

Looks interesting. Let us know if you figure out your own similar method and how it works for you.

[laker67]

It appears to me as a system for someone who is "slow" to make the hook set, or afraid to make the hook set because he is not sure if he got the bite at all. It appears to be the perfect system for foul hooking fish on the outside of the mouth, under the chin, or in the gill plate. You might as well put a treble hook dropper on what ever fly you fish. What ever happened to setting the hook before the fish spits your fly out?

[strangercreek]

It appears to me as a system for someone who is "slow" to make the hook set, or afraid to make the hook set because he is not sure if he got the bite at all. It appears to be the perfect system for foul hooking fish on the outside of the mouth, under the chin, or in the gill plate. You might as well put a treble hook dropper on what ever fly you fish. What ever happened to setting the hook before the fish spits your fly out?

I believe the idea behind it is to PURPOSELY hook on the outside of the mouth, reducing injuries to the gill arch, tongue and esophagus. This was in the last issue of Fly Fisherman (where I found it). I hope they wouldn't feature this if it was meant to foul hook fish . I am not sure if it is effective or not as I haven't tried it, but if it reduces catch and release mortality then I think it would be a good thing. Read the "Background" section on the website and it explains this in more detail. I think it is a little expensive, but an interesting idea.

Barbless hooks help with a great deal of this in my opinion (used on regular flies). I am sure alot of fish are caught on the dropper when the fish hits the top fly also, so it really isn't that different if you think about it.

Also, it lets you use smaller hooks when fishing big flies.

[laker67]

I believe the idea behind it is to PURPOSELY hook on the outside of the mouth, reducing injuries to the gill arch, tongue and esophagus. This was in the last issue of Fly Fisherman (where I found it). I hope they wouldn't feature this if it was meant to foul hook fish . I am not sure if it is effective or not as I haven't tried it, but if it reduces catch and release mortality then I think it would be a good thing. Read the "Background" section on the website and it explains this in more detail. I think it is a little expensive, but an interesting idea.

Barbless hooks help with a great deal of this in my opinion (used on regular flies). I am sure alot of fish are caught on the dropper when the fish hits the top fly also, so it really isn't that different if you think about it.

Also, it lets you use smaller hooks when fishing big flies.

A fish hooked outside of the mouth, according to MDC an IGFA, is not a legally caught fish. Judging by the length of the leader below the fly, I can't see it doing anything but foul hooking the fish. When the fish grabs the fly, the current will sweep the hook alongside of the fish. Just like a dropper fly that so many now fish, it's tailor made to "snag" fish. Did you know that any fish caught on a dropper rig cannot be accepted as a record? How many of you still want to keep fishing those dropper rigs?

[DD'sMC]

A fish hooked outside of the mouth, according to MDC an IGFA, is not a legally caught fish. Judging by the length of the leader below the fly, I can't see it doing anything but foul hooking the fish. When the fish grabs the fly, the current will sweep the hook alongside of the fish. Just like a dropper fly that so many now fish, it's tailor made to "snag" fish. Did you know that any fish caught on a dropper rig cannot be accepted as a record? How many of you still want to keep fishing those dropper rigs?

Wow~guess I didn't think all of this through. You are trully a wealth of information. Thank you for your posts!

[troutchaser]

It's an interesting concept. If it weren't so much trouble to mess with droppers and such, I'd try it - regardless of laker67's somewhat grouchy response.

[fishinwrench]

To each their own, but to me it's snagging...period.

Like I was saying in the other (bead pegging) thread, I tried it in Bennett and on the Niangua and I did catch fish. Some in the mouth, some just outside the mouth, a few got stuck either on the side or on top of the back and shook off, and one got it in the eye. That's when I decided I didn't like it.

But I'll confess that I was using a TMC 100 #12 and I was not using a circle hook....But Still I just don't like the concept.

I do "ok" the ol'fashioned way and if I ever caught the fish of a lifetime using a pegged type rig (or even a dropper rig) it would never really feel...right...and I'm not sure I could be very proud of it. But that is just my personal view FWIW.

[troutchaser]

I guess I need to learn more. How would circle hooks change things?

[fishinwrench]

I guess I need to learn more. How would circle hooks change things?

Circle hooks would probably be more apt to roll off the sides and gill plates, so you'd either get a jaw stabbed or miss them altogether. Dunno, just a thought.