June 10Th. 2010 Table Rock Lake Fishing Report

[Bill Babler]

Great Morning with a very good fisherman..

[Champ188]

Obviously a great trip for ya, Bill. Glad you got to spend a day fishing and not baby-sitting. Super report, too. As always, thanks for the info.

[dtrs5kprs]

Nicely done, and always good to see a report for the mid-lake. Would have looked at outside gravel for the jig before I looked at bluff ends, so that may really help next week. Much appreciated.

Only thing is, I thought there were no fish at Baxter...

[Tfsh4bass]

Champ, we were on the water before daylight, and the first 5 locations I wanted to hit already had boats on them. There are a lot of people enjoying the lake. God Bless Them.

5K, I fished to Baxter, but the best bite by far was Kimberling to Wolfpen. Caught some up river, but not what I should be. Also when you get around the Indians, the boat traffic, is to the point of unreal with the K. Camps in full swing. Kids had it completely covered up. Very easy to take water over the side and over the stern. Troller popped out at least a 1/2 dozen times. You know its time to go when that starts.

After they meandered off, we came back and fished where the fish were and did well. I cannot tell you how close to the bank some of these guys are fishing. I have spoken to enough to know they are not getting rich, but they still pound the bank.

lots of our fish, jig fish were more than two full casts off the bank, and our dropshot fish, were midlake. Mostly on rolloffs, to the channel.

It must just be impossible for people to understand that you simple have to move out to catch them good on the rock. Denny said he has a friend that has fished the lake for years, and not well he added. Just cannot get off the shoreline. It is a whole nother world out in the "Blue Water."

Good Luck

Bill I really enjoy reading your post, and thank you for the forum, but I disagree that everyone has to "move out" to catch bass especially in June. I had a solid bag yesterday throwing a swimbait on flat points with timber and my boat was never deeper than 16ft...mixed bag of blacks, smallmouth and spots. When I can't get bites anymore I will just move up the rivers and continue to fish shallow with square bills, buzzbaits and spinnerbaits...some of us like to fish shallow while others like to move out BUT there are fish to be caught both ways.

[dtrs5kprs]

5K, I fished to Baxter, but the best bite by far was Kimberling to Wolfpen. Caught some up river, but not what I should be.

Thought I recognized a couple of those places in your pics. Good tip about the Baxter camps, I'll have to compare it to running back into Schooner Creek Resort at about 10 or 11am. Reminds me why I bought a bigger boat.

[techo]

Well that wasn't near as fun as I thought it was going to be!

[Tfsh4bass]

T4BASS, yes you may have had a bag shallow. It is not that easy, PERIOD. If it were, I would be out of business along with the other 22 guides on this lake. Yes you may have had a bag, don't doubt it in the least. Yes there are people that like to fish shallow. I am always trying to offer an alternative. I need numbers of quality fish, and I cannot due to my ability I'm sure, produce the numbers I need throwing at the bank. Its for sure the majority of my clients or for that matter, the people we speak to everyday, cannot.

I as the rest of us guide types, work, because people do not catch them shallow. Next time I am having trouble shallow, I'll just jerk out a buzzbait, or square bill and run up a river and start in on them.

I or most of us don't have that kind of ability. I cannot go day after day and put 30 to 40 fish I need on a guide trip in the boat shallow. There are always shallow fish, in way less numbers than I need. Those fish are also pounded and pounded. My point to help folks that are not as good as you and that are not catching them, is to try and fish a bit deeper. Fish to fish that are not seeing a presentation, every 30 minutes of everyday.

We had 40 plus fish, two casts off the bank and on the River Channel Swings, and not a dink in the bunch.

God bless you for having it so easy plugging the bank, I just have not got that figured out. And from my experence and what I'm hearing, not many other people do.

Good Luck

Nothing personal Bill and not sure why you had to make it that but I figured it was coming. I know guiding is a completely different animal and I am friends with several. I am just not much on black and white comments when there are several ways to do things. Again I know guiding is different but I am obviously not a good enough fisherman to be a guide.

[Bill Babler]

I've had a dose. I try. Would not have said a thing about the folks flogging the bank, but was asked to, as most are just not catching anything. Lots of inquiries on what they need to do. I correct myself. Really none of my business.

I'm guiding everyday now and as I said on an earlier post, we are all just "Digging Ditches."

You all enjoy your Summer.

[Champ188]

I'll put my shallow-water skills against anyone's on this forum but from June through September, conditions have to be perfect in order for me to get five quality bites in a day's time beating the banks. Otherwise, the "deep-sea fishermen" will beat you every time. As for guiding, I spent several years doing it myself, mainly on Lake Ouachita in west-central Arkansas, which is big, deep and clear like TR. There are year-round shallow fish there, too, but they don't live 20 feet up in the trees along the banks, which is exactly where 75% of guide clients will throw their lures given the chance. Bill, your skills aren't the point here. Your clients pay you to put them on fish, not squirrels and birds. No one is going to get as many bites a day in hot summer beating the banks as they will fishing out. And bites are what clients are paying the guides for.

[techo]

Nothing personal Bill and not sure why you had to make it that but I figured it was coming. I know guiding is a completely different animal and I am friends with several. I am just not much on black and white comments when there are several ways to do things. Again I know guiding is different but I am obviously not a good enough fisherman to be a guide.

Terry,

Ever wonder why the food cost so much more at a fancy steak house? It is the delivery. They cook that steak over an open grill pit and serve it on a hot steely plate surrounded by goodies. Taste good and people pay a whole lot more for it than if you cooked the same steak over an open grill and served it on a paper plate with some chips.

Your delivery on advice , thoughts and suggestions were challeging to say the least. In the last few days you have made suggestions as to how to manage Table Rock like they manage the lakes in the far north which are covered by ice four months a year. Ozark folks don't care much for how other people do stuff as this is an area with a huge history. Then you suggest you don't have much respect for Missouri's version of the DNR. Some of those guys are actually friends of ours. I think a couple have spoken at seminars. I know you were talking about the practices, not the people, but again it is the delivery. You said them not their policies.

To top it off.....you tell Babler you disagree with him and don't like black and white statements. He is a highly respected guide that has acked up his advice with 20+ pound bags in tournaments. On a topic labeled for the KVD fishing tournament in the Table Rock forum you post pics of small mouth bass caught on a MInnesota lake, asking if it brought back memories. I took that as a suggestion that you didn't believe I fished up there and committed the same violation of forum ettiquette. Another paper plate.

Maybe shallow fishing works for you year around because it is your strength. In general.....Table Rock is a different kind of clear water lake and the majority of anglers have to go deep in the summer.

If the guides come on here and give advice.....and it doesn't work....they get emails and PMs asking why they steered people wrong and asked why are they trying to keep people off the fish so they can have them for their clients. There really isn't much of a benefit for guides to post on here what is or isn't working for them as they fish almost everyday. It is mostly regulars that read and post on here and they don't hire guides very often as they have a good idea about the lake anyway. In other words this forum doesn't generate a lot of business for guides.

I normally try to stay pretty politically correct and not make waves. You mentioned Bill made it personal. As an admin of the forum....I doubt he would respond to that. I was just trying to show another side. I expected a few fireworks out of him after your post as he is a feisty feller that has a passion for Table Rock and really wants people ot enjoy the fisheries. He ducked one time and told me to cast a red fin over his head at a fish that had swirled on the surface. I laughed at him. But that is how he is about fishing. He wants everybody to be successful and have a good time.

So saying what works for you might have been a bit less challenging than saying you disagree with someone and dislike black and white statements. Of course I could be wrong! After all everyone knows food while camping taste way better than some steak on a hot steely plate at a spendy steak house.