Has Branson "jumped The Shark"

[eric1978]

It will be teenage white kids trying to get over their white person guilt.

I don't think it's white guilt as much as pure, unrestrained stupidity. They actually like the garbage because no one has ever taught them otherwise. A throng of red-eyed, empty-headed zombies will enter the venue with sagging pants and money in hand, and they'll leave the place with empty pockets and even less class than with which they arrived. Their parents fed them zero culture, and now they're reaping what was sowed and paying the price. They are our future. God help us.

[patfish]

Their parents fed them zero culture, and now they're reaping what was sowed and paying the price. They are our future. God help us.

Amen brother...

[Thom]

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Their parents fed them zero culture, and now they're reaping what was sowed and paying the price. They are our future. God help us.

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Seem I heard this before. O yeah it was in 1957 when the Beatles, Monkeys, Jerry lee lewis, Elvis perverted their generation of wild eyes, sex driven, swivel hipped young people that gave us the riotous 60', 70's music.

Oh you don't remember. Go to the Branson shows and you will the same people who were predicted to be the lost generation now applauding the shows that promote patriotism and pride in the USA.[/b]

The shows were banned in some states and white rock misician arrested in New York for playing the vile "Rock around the clock tonight"

[Gatorjet]

Seem I heard this before. O yeah it was in 1957 when the Beatles, Monkeys, Jerry lee lewis, Elvis perverted their generation of wild eyes, sex driven, swivel hipped young people that gave us the riotous 60', 70's music.

Oh you don't remember. Go to the Branson shows and you will the same people who were predicted to be the lost generation now applauding the shows that promote patriotism and pride in the USA.[/

Google Nelly lyrics, read some of them, and then compare! No reference to women as "bit@%&$ & ho#$. No language about someone's "motha". No "bustin' a cap on the cops" from Elvis or the Beatles! I think it is a world of difference!!!

Still, it IS freedom of speech, and the right of the performer to do, and the audience to listen. It was just the wrong venue for an OUTDOOR Rap concert.

Time will tell if this is a sign of a "new" Branson. If it is an economic success, and this is the route the City and the promoters want to go in, so be it.

I only asked if people thought that Branson has "jumped the shark" by trying to completely change what it has been overnight.

[eric1978]

Seem I heard this before. O yeah it was in 1957 when the Beatles, Monkeys, Jerry lee lewis, Elvis perverted their generation of wild eyes, sex driven, swivel hipped young people that gave us the riotous 60', 70's music.

That's precisely the culture I assert they are lacking. I was raised on that music, and most of it was made before I was born. It's still what I listen to now. I was also exposed to classical music and Rat Pack kind of stuff, which I choose to no longer listen to except on rare occasions. There's a world of difference between the artistic and musical revolution that occurred in the 60s and 70s and the crap they produce now. Just because both were frowned upon by an older generation doesn't mean one isn't objectively better than another.

Oh, and the Beatles didn't debut in the U.S. until '64.

[Thom]

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Oh, and the Beatles didn't debut in the U.S. until '64.

Oh sorrry Eric....I guess all of that rock music I listened to in the years from 57 until 64 still has my mind dulled.

Consider the back of my keyboard hand slapped with your expertese ruler. WOW I need that!The point I was trying to make is that every generation has it's Nelly's etc. I don't see them making much of an impact on the Branson scene. Knowing the tenacity of the powers to be in Branson I don't think they are going to "jump the shark" very easily there anyway. I don't see a market for rap or the like in Branson.

[Terry Beeson]

Well, Eric... You forgot to correct Thom in that the Monkees did not debut until '66...

I'm sorry, fellas, but you sound exactly like your fathers and grandfathers did back in the 50s and 60s. I don't like Nelly anymore than you guys do, and his lyrics are pretty rough. I refuse to call most of it music, but do have to give some of it the benefit of the doubt in the "art" department. I know... I know... but the word "art" covers a vast area, and I won't get into any arguments about what is "art" and what is not.

But, as a wise ol' shot putter once told me years ago... "The name of the game is MONEY!" And the promoters are banking on the fact that the little blue hairs and bald heads that go to see Andy Williams - along with Andy himself - are mere mortals and will not last forever. PLUS the fact that the disposable income of the average vacationer is getting fatter among those who would go to a concert such as this. It's pure business and has nothing to do with wanting to bring on the demise of Branson culture.

By the way, Thom. You say you don't see a market for rap and the like in Branson? I think they said the same thing right before the "rock 'n' roll" shows started popping up... Don't see a market? Go to the water parks, SDC, and outlet malls and count the number of young people there. They would flock to a concert like this.

Yes sir... The name of the game is money...

[eric1978]

Oh sorrry Eric....I guess all of that rock music I listened to in the years from 57 until 64 still has my mind dulled.

Consider the back of my keyboard hand slapped with your expertese ruler. WOW I need that!

Sorry Thom, didn't mean to ruffle your feathers.

I was just saying there IS a difference between the quality of the material made back then and made now. I have this argument with my buddies all the time...is music purely a matter of opinion and totally subjective, or can it be measured somehow and is some objectively better than others? Compare, say, Mozart with, hmmm, let's see...MC Hammer. I think there's a pretty strong argument to make that one is objectively better than the other. Now apply that to more similar comparisons.

But, as a wise ol' shot putter once told me years ago... "The name of the game is MONEY!" And the promoters are banking on the fact that the little blue hairs and bald heads that go to see Andy Williams - along with Andy himself - are mere mortals and will not last forever. PLUS the fact that the disposable income of the average vacationer is getting fatter among those who would go to a concert such as this. It's pure business and has nothing to do with wanting to bring on the demise of Branson culture.

Yes sir... The name of the game is money...

You can pretty much call this thread a wrap, because Terry just nailed it. That's EXACTLY what it's all about, plain and simple. If there's money to be made, anything goes, including Branson's "family values."

[flytyer57]

I thought when Branson first opened up it mostly all country music. Then everybody jumped in on the band wagon cuz their shows were getting old and couldn't get booked in Vegas anymore.

I personally think that Branson should get back to it's roots and stick to country music. There's enough money in contry music that would still draw the youngsters in.

[Coldspring]

What is COUNTRY MUSIC?

I'll admit I'm not very knowledgeable about the St. Louis, Kansas City, or Memphis rap styles and scenes. There's really no way to determine what music is good or not, just what you like, what has a catchy hook to get reel you in. Watch Hustle and Flow about the Memphis rap scene sometime, good movie whether you like the subject matter or not. I personally think Louis Armstrong and Duke Ellington are a WHOLE LOT better than most 60s and 70s stuff, although I sure do like Sly and the Family Stone, George Clinton, James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, etc... Oh, heck you're probably right, music was better back in that era.