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At least somthing good is comming from those fish.

Dennis Boothe

Joplin Mo.

For a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing

in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."

~ Winston Churchill ~

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Chanced across a pretty good website about the Asian Carp and control efforts. http://www.asiancarp.org/Wordpress/

If that 20 pound fish from Lake Calumet (scroll down on the map) wasn't a single fish it doesn't look good for the Great Lakes. You can net them in Rivers but not in a body of water the size of the Great Lakes. The obvious reason they are so thick in the Illinois R. is it carries all of Chicagoland's (hopefully treated) sewage down to the Mississippi and the microrganisms these things feed on would do well in that effluent.

A buddy of mine from Chicago area called last night and told me about a 60 lb. Asian Carp some guy caught in a local lake up there just very recently. I'm trying to find a published report of this catch. I thought the darn things wouldn't take a hook, guess that's false.

Yeah, sell them to China or I've often wondered about using them for fertilizer ? They are one heck of a lot cleaner from our waters than the catfish and tilapia being raised and exported here from SE Asia. This video I was sent explains it graphically plus the remnants of Viet Nam war era Agent Orange spraying are still present in those waters. http://www.vimeo.com/11817894

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I would think they are good to eat if they can sell them in Asia, but I would like to hear from someone locally that filleted one and fried it up southern style whether or not they are good eating.

The fastest way to eradicate any fish species is for that fish to be worth enough money to be fished for profitably, then turn the commercial fishermen loose on them. If these fish do taste good to your average American, then they should be renamed, anything called "carp" is not going to sell in the US. Rename them to something like "Silver Bass" or "Silver Roughy" or "Great Lakes Tuna".

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The obvious reason they are so thick in the Illinois R. is it carries all of Chicagoland's (hopefully treated) sewage down to the Mississippi and the microrganisms these things feed on would do well in that effluent.

I'd be willing to bet the impact of Chicago's treated wastewater pales in comparison to the nutrient inputs of all the corn, soybean, pork, beef, poultry, and other ag producers in the region.

I would think they are good to eat if they can sell them in Asia, but I would like to hear from someone locally that filleted one and fried it up southern style whether or not they are good eating... Rename them to something like "Silver Bass" or "Silver Roughy" or "Great Lakes Tuna".

I've had them both fried and smoked. Smoked is easier, you can do the whole fish. Butchering them isn't terribly tough, there's a way to do it where you avoid most of the bones, and the ones which remain are so large they can easily be removed. It's a firm, white flesh, not unlike tuna or paddlefish.

As for the the market, Liyu is Chinese for carp, I believe, and sounds more appetizing than what they are.

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I would think they are good to eat if they can sell them in Asia, but I would like to hear from someone locally that filleted one and fried it up southern style whether or not they are good eating.

The fastest way to eradicate any fish species is for that fish to be worth enough money to be fished for profitably, then turn the commercial fishermen loose on them. If these fish do taste good to your average American, then they should be renamed, anything called "carp" is not going to sell in the US. Rename them to something like "Silver Bass" or "Silver Roughy" or "Great Lakes Tuna".

Looks like Colbert and Kentucky have found the answer. laugh.gif You have to get past the razor commercial, and it took awhile for the video to buffer...but my computer is a heap, so it may be faster on yours.

http://www.colbertna...ese-burger-melt

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Yeah, sell them to China or I've often wondered about using them for fertilizer ? They are one heck of a lot cleaner from our waters than the catfish and tilapia being raised and exported here from SE Asia. This video I was sent explains it graphically plus the remnants of Viet Nam war era Agent Orange spraying are still present in those waters. http://www.vimeo.com/11817894

Shrimp is raised in the same conditions overseas. I will only buy fish or shrimp if I know where it comes from. The gulf coast fishermem are pretty good at labeling there products. I wish the FDA would mandate labeling all meat and fish products with a country of origin.

Dennis Boothe

Joplin Mo.

For a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing

in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."

~ Winston Churchill ~

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Well, I guess that takes care of the renaming question. Looks like they might be able to make a market for it after all. This article also mentions they're marketed as "silverfin" in New Orleans- http://www.state-journal.com/news/article/4810880

So, just a quick show of hands, would you be more willing to eat Asian Carp, Kentucky Tuna, or Silverfin if you saw it on a menu?

Rob

WARNING!! Comments to be interpreted at own risk.

Time spent fishing is never wasted.

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The Colbert vid was funny!

I would definitely give the Asian carp a try if offered at a restaurant. As far as I know they have not yet invaded NW Arkansas, and hopefully won't make it here, but if they do, I would go out and snag one and see if it's any good. Sounds as if they have a lot of bones, if they're those little feathery Y ones that would make them tough to eat.

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A buddy of mine from Chicago area called last night and told me about a 60 lb. Asian Carp some guy caught in a local lake up there just very recently. I'm trying to find a published report of this catch. I thought the darn things wouldn't take a hook, guess that's false.

Probably a Grass carp, put there to cut back on vegetation. They have the same low eye alignment that the Asian carp do. Being filter feeders, I don't know that they can survive that well in lake water, at least I thinks its questionable.

Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.

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