Maybe I'm Just A Little Behind But What Is This?

[MstStudent10]

I thought this justly fit into this conversation....

http://www.vostok.es/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/carnivore-support-group.jpg

.

.

.

[eric1978]

haha - he didn't have much impact at all - it was just reassuring to have a fisherman in the white house.

I don't know if I'd call anything about that White House "reassuring." Boy, this thread is on thin ice.

My biggest problem with PETA is that they are too extreme on most subjects. They do have some valid points, but I think they go way to far most of the time to be taken seriously by the public.

Agreed.

[Thunderin Gobbler]

MstStudent, that is awesome. It that actually posted on campus?

And by the way, I think Bob really picked a good topic the present us with. It was starting to get a little slow around here for a few days.

[Phil Lilley]

Half way thru reading this, I thought, "This is missing something . . . where's the politics?" Then, there it was!

I've been so super swamped lately that I haven't been reading much of the forum. Have a nephew getting married tomorrow and lots of family coming to town including all my kids - yea!

I wish I had time to address some of this stuff. Right off the top of my head- animal cruelty is viewed differently in every culture. You won't see PETA go over seas and preach cruelty in countries who don't have enough to eat and are dying of starvation saying "don't eat your dogs!" It's easy to sit and judge when you aren't in the same cultural circumstances. BUT, I couldn't watch that video. There's stuff like that going on around here with animals not being taken care of. It's wrong. It's sickening.

As for the Bible says about eating animals including fish, there are books out basically backing up the Word's assertion on healthy and unhealthy meats to eat based on science and Biblical writings and they pretty much agree. God had a two fold purposed when he said don't eat pork. It's unclean cause "I" said so and cause it's bad for you.

Sin - is separation from a man and God. It's not necessarily an act. But if you're guilty of one thing, one act, one definitive "sin", you are guilty of the whole law. If you speed, you're a law breaker and guilty until a price is paid and you're exonerated. Even by you're own set of morals, you break one, once, and then you forgive yourself? You pay a price? By who's authority are you forgiven? Take God out of the picture and it's a guessing game. How's right and wrong? Put God in the picture and play by who's rules? Partly ours and partly Gods. Take the ones we like from God's - the prosperity, blessings and healing and leave the stuff we don't like or understand. Christians, pretend-Christians and non-Christians do it all the time. We all do it, even those of us in leadership - knowingly and unknowingly.

I can't tell anyone how to live his life. Paul lived his life and said, look - follow me as I follow Christ. Knowing what I know about Jesus, that is an earth-shattering statement, one that buckles my knees. I will not argue theories and religions here or face-to-face. I will not defend God because He needs no defending. He is God. But what I will strive to do is love and help my friends and people around me, I'll love and cherish my family, friends and others that are around me and love the Lord God with all my heart, soul and mind and with all my strength.

I got to go clean rooms...

[Thunderin Gobbler]

Well said Lilley!

[Fly_Guy]

+1

(and Lilley - I couldn't resist injecting some politics - it just felt like the right thing to do )

[Walleyedmike]

Yep, you know what they say. There's more than one way to filet a sea kitten.

WM

[Carp E Diem]

Ha ha, I think I'm actually FOR the clubbing of seals. I hadn't ever really looked into the subject before. It's actually much more humane than shooting a deer with an arrow, letting it bleed out, and tracking it down (which I have no problem with). The only reason it has garnered so much support is because of how cute the babies are, and it just sounds appalling and barbaric. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_hunting

[Trevor K]

Ha ha, I think I'm actually FOR the clubbing of seals. I hadn't ever really looked into the subject before. It's actually much more humane than shooting a deer with an arrow, letting it bleed out, and tracking it down (which I have no problem with). The only reason it has garnered so much support is because of how cute the babies are, and it just sounds appalling and barbaric. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_hunting

As bad as it sounds I think I have to agree. I think a lot of it is because baby seals are cute. If people were clubbing rats then it probably wouldn't be as big of an issue. Just my 2 cents though.

[eric1978]

Ha ha, I think I'm actually FOR the clubbing of seals. I hadn't ever really looked into the subject before. It's actually much more humane than shooting a deer with an arrow, letting it bleed out, and tracking it down (which I have no problem with). The only reason it has garnered so much support is because of how cute the babies are, and it just sounds appalling and barbaric. More info at http://en.wikipedia....ki/Seal_hunting

As bad as it sounds I think I have to agree. I think a lot of it is because baby seals are cute. If people were clubbing rats then it probably wouldn't be as big of an issue. Just my 2 cents though.

Have you guys ever seen actual footage of it? I have, and it ain't pretty. It's flippin' horrible and disgusting. Comparing an intelligent animal like a seal to a rat is a worthless analogy. That's like comparing dogs and fish. Hey Carp E Diem...Why don't you put a snausage on a hook and take your ultralight outside for a little fun with that cute little weenie-dog? I rest my case.