Guest Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 I swear that some people just use this site so that they can argue with each other. If you don't want to post a report--don't. If you do--post one. If you don't want to put the name of the stream, or section of the stream, or post pictures of landmarks that's fine--it's your darn report, who cares whether or not Flytyer57 wants everyone in northern Arkansas fishing Crooked creek. I ussually keep my reports short and simple with a couple pictures to give an idea of the stream character, and a few fish pics. I won't tell you the stream, but I am sure you could figure it out if you tried.
id10t Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 Here's to 10 pages... Let the good times roll. We have rain. We have rain. We have rain. The sky has done feld it has feld I told ya. Maybe this will get it to 10.
Wayne SW/MO Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 "Never had a problem with Shimano reels unless I got them wet" Unfortunately where I fish there's water. I use Diawas so I don't have to worry about it or clean them constantly. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
eric1978 Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 "Never had a problem with Shimano reels unless I got them wet" Unfortunately where I fish there's water. I use Diawas so I don't have to worry about it or clean them constantly. So now we'll go in that direction, eh? Okay, I'll play. I've had many, many Shimano spinning reels over the years, from mid-grade to Stella. I've had exactly one with the Shimbindo problem, a Sustain from the early 2000s, and it only happened once when I had dropped it in the river and it was completely submerged for at least 30 seconds. They are great reels otherwise, and I'll keep buying them. If it binds, I'll return it.
id10t Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 So now we'll go in that direction, eh? Okay, I'll play. I've had many, many Shimano spinning reels over the years, from mid-grade to Stella. I've had exactly one with the Shimbindo problem, a Sustain from the early 2000s, and it only happened once when I had dropped it in the river and it was completely submerged for at least 30 seconds. They are great reels otherwise, and I'll keep buying them. If it binds, I'll return it. Made the switch to US Reel XL180's a few years ago. Hated the 1st one I had because the bail was was hard to close. Sent it back to St Louis (darn Yankees) and they sent me a new one. It had the same issue. So I put it on the shelf and went back to my tried and true Plueger President 6725's. US Reel was at the trade show in Shreveport for the Bassmasters and I let them know how I felt about the reel and the bail etc. The fella gave me a new one and showed me what needed to be bent on the bail to fix it. I asked why I had to send the 1st one back if someone would have just told me what to do I could have done it. He said something about not sharing that info because it caused to much pressure on the staff or was that the fish or maybe the river. Long story short (unlike this thread) the XL180 reels are outstanding. The large spool makes for great casts. On these little creeks that we are not talking about I have plenty of control and can put my cast right where I want it. On the bigger rivers with the Honey Holes we are not talking about I can put it where I want it with out spooking the fishes. I have put them through plenty of abuse and they keep on working so I am happy.
flytyer57 Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 "Never had a problem with Shimano reels unless I got them wet" Unfortunately where I fish there's water. I use Diawas so I don't have to worry about it or clean them constantly. All my reels except for 1 Quantum (which is a piece of crap) and my fly reels, are Shimano. The only problem I have ever had is when they took a dunking in the river. Then they start sticking. I take them home and clean them up and they work just fine. I'm sure if you dunked your Diawa in the river a few times it wouldn't come out feeling brand new either. Oh, maybe at first, for a while, but give it an hour or so and I bet that thing will be sounding like a coffee ginder. I have yet to see a water proof reel. The oil and grease inside don't mix well with H2O. There's a fine line between fishing and sitting there looking stupid.
eric1978 Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 The fella gave me a new one and showed me what needed to be bent on the bail to fix it. I asked why I had to send the 1st one back if someone would have just told me what to do I could have done it. I dunno. I don't think I'd wanna have to bend something on a reel right out of the box to make it work right. I'd like to buy US Reels since they're US made, I just can't seem to break my old Shimano and Loomis habits.
Al Agnew Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 AAAAAHHHHHH!!!! Not the Shimbindo subject...this thread has officially gone off the deep end. Two of the three Shimano spinning reels I've owned had the binding problem. To tell the truth, I honestly don't remember when it first happened...whether I dunked the reel or it was raining or whatever. Thing is, reels are supposed to be used around water and sometimes in the rain, and I certainly don't make it a habit of dunking my reels repeatedly. So to have the problem at all is bad enough, and to have it be a permanent feature of the reel afterward (even after careful cleaning) is inexcusable. The cleaning would temporarily solve the problem until about midway through the next day of fishing, when it would reappear. So...I'm convinced it's a luck of the draw type thing, or was. If you were unlucky you got a Shimano that would stick. So...my question, based upon my experience, is why buy a reel that MIGHT POSSIBLY give you a certain specific problem, when there are many reels out there that are comparable in quality but do not have that problem? I've never had it on any reel I've owned from any other company. Sure, other companies' reels have their own problems, but not a company specific problem. Everybody can produce a lemon, or produce reels that are less durable or need more maintenance. But only the Shimanos have the specific binding problem. At least that's how I think.
eric1978 Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 So...my question, based upon my experience, is why buy a reel that MIGHT POSSIBLY give you a certain specific problem, when there are many reels out there that are comparable in quality but do not have that problem? This is the best analogy I could come up with to defend my indefensible Shimano addiction: When you're at the grocery store, standing in the dairy isle, regular sour cream in one hand, and that tasteless, watery, fat-free crap in the other, which one do you buy? The regular stuff MIGHT make you fat and give you a heart attack one day, but it's going to be better than the alternative until it happens. Or you might buy the nasty stuff, and you'll still have your baked potato that night, but you'll be thinking the whole time...darn, I shoulda covered my spuds with premium.
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