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[ness]

Hey, if you don't want in on the pissing match then put it back in your pants, ya snob!

Dillweed, trying to break up a perfectly good argument.. lol

You're laughter-bating, cricket.

[FishinCricket]

You're laughter-bating, cricket.

Well, you're half right...

(gimme a break, it's been a looooooong day)

[Flysmallie]

Right on...screw everyone else that wants to fish down there! If I am there first..the hole is mine and mine alone! I'll be damed if some St. Louis city folk are gonna fish in my spot....don't they know that it's snaggun season..gottta get those suckers to the skillet. In fact I'm prolly gonna sit right here and snaggum all dam day...everyone knows that the best snaggun in the state is in this silly Blue Ribbon area..Shooo. I don't see why these trout people just don't fish somewhere else.

Seriously...first come first serve only works at McDonalds.

And this ignorance is exactly why you are too stupid to occupy the same stream as me. What a dumbass.

Continue on, I know nothing.

[Chief Grey Bear]

To answer you question "How is a grabber supposed to know when the next guy will be coming through?"- That's easy-there is pretty much always someone "coming through" on the Baptist Camp stretch of the Current. I'm not sure if you're familiar with it, but that's crowded water, not quite as crowded as a trout park, but not far off. And normal fly or spinner fishing just doesn't ruin the fishing for the next guy in the same way as someone camping a hole with 20 pound line and a huge treble hook. It's rude in just the same way that it would be rude for me to wade out into one of these pools to retrieve a snagged fly. I'm of the opinion, especially on crowded water, that it's important to try not to ruin the fishing for the next person that might be fishing the pool I'm on.

What I'm saying, quite simply, is that it might be a nice idea to pick a stretch of stream where they won't be ruining the fishing for as many people. I can think of plenty of creeks that have good sucker populations that just don't have the crowds of the upper Current. It's just that this particular method doesn't work out very well on crowded water, not that I have any real problem with it.

And I never made any comment whatsoever about spin or bait fisherman. I'm not sure where you got that from.

So you go from wanting to close down sections of white ribbon streams from the catch and keep club and now you don't think those that like to fish for suckers should fish certain sections of creeks? But you don't have a problem with it???? That whole post sounds like you have a problem with it.

[jjtroutbum]

I wont point fingers but some really should evaluate their statements for forms of snobbery.

[FishinCricket]

I wont point fingers but some really should evaluate their statements for forms of snobbery.

He-he-he

[Al Agnew]

There are always going to be conflicts whenever there are a bunch of people on the same water. They have as much right to be there as you do...UNLESS their form of recreation interferes with yours while yours doesn't interfere with anybody else's to anywhere near the same degree. The sucker grabbers are messing up one pool for the trout fishermen. The trout fishermen probably aren't messing up the sucker grabbers much...in fact, they might be inadvertently helping them if they come wading into the pool and scare the suckers into the grabbers' hooking area (which was what the grabbers were trying to do by throwing rocks).

Problem is, there are times when one user's activities DO totally mess things up for other users. I don't think this is one of those times, but if a whole bunch of sucker grabbers descended upon the upper Current and set up shop in every decent pool, then it WOULD be such a case, since the trout fishermen in their normal activities would be doing nothing to really mess up the sucker grabbers, while the sucker grabbers would pretty much be messing up the trout fishermen.

It would become a very sticky situation in that case.

[Greg]

There are quite a number of people on the forum that need to just chill out regarding the fly fishing vs spin fishing vs bait fishing, etc, etc argument. It's all just fishing and it's all good isn't it? It really seems like people on both sides take offense at the slightest thing that is said.............

Talk about beating a dead horse.

Greg

[FishinCricket]

There are quite a number of people on the forum that need to just chill out regarding the fly fishing vs spin fishing vs bait fishing, etc, etc argument. It's all just fishing and it's all good isn't it? It really seems like people on both sides take offense at the slightest thing that is said.............

Talk about beating a dead horse.

Greg

C'mon, Greg! It was just starting to get good! Ya see:

When pulverizing a deceased Equine, never forget to stop and "smell the roses".. You learn to appreciate each chunk of rhetorical flesh as it lobs toward unsuspecting posters who just stopped in on page 6 to see what the commotion is about.. You should remember to examine this tidbits as they fly by, see them for the unique masterpieces (or clear warnings) that they are. And the real good stuff, the psychological release of tension that comes from the (metaphorical) blood splashing onto everyone (bonding us in a strange way), THAT doesnt even come around til page 6 or so! Ya see, it's in kicking that dead horse that we all come to terms with our true thoughts, our true feelings.. Not just about the horse (cause after all, it's already dead) but about each other.

(for instance, through careful examination of many posts I have come to the conclusion that Wheat and FlySmallie were star-crossed lovers in their previous lives)

However, out of respect for one of the fly fisherman who helped turn me toward the righteous path of the Fly rod (and you did, Kind Sir) and a few others who apparently take that subject pretty darn seriously, I will now back away from this dead horse (the fly vs Spin guy debate) and turn my attention to riling up people about a different subject altogether. I hope you understand my comments regarding that subject were (usually) made purely in jest and that I have truly enjoyed my time on the stream with the fly guys I HAVE met...

[ozark trout fisher]

So you go from wanting to close down sections of white ribbon streams from the catch and keep club and now you don't think those that like to fish for suckers should fish certain sections of creeks? But you don't have a problem with it???? That whole post sounds like you have a problem with it.

I don't have a problem with sucker snagging in most areas- but on really crowded water, it just doesn't work out well. It scares too many fish away for the other fisherman, whether they are fly or spin anglers.

I do not have a problem with snagging on more secluded streams where there method doesn't ruin as many people's fishing. Snagging at Baptist Camp is roughly equivalent to someone setting up shop and snagging suckers, say, in Roaring River State Park. It just doesn't work out well for anyone with that many fisherman around. And for every upper Current, I can probably name you 10 creeks where I have no problem whatsoever with sucker snagging.

I don't really understand where everyone is getting the idea that I am railing against spin-fisherman either. I don't have a problem with spin fishing on the Current or anywhere else for that matter.

One final point- I'm not even suggesting that snagging should be banned in the Current River. I am just suggesting that it is an inconsiderate behavior on this particular stretch of stream, in just the same way that some fly fisherman are inconsiderate of other fisherman.