Tim Smith Posted January 4, 2011 Author Posted January 4, 2011 Oh, so now it's Obama's fault. So tell us, what did Rupert Murdoch have for lunch today? Is this seriously going to be a discussion about whether Obama or Murdoch killed those birds and fishes?
flytyer57 Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 Is this seriously going to be a discussion about whether Obama or Murdoch killed those birds and fishes? As far as we know of, neither are personally responsible. There's a fine line between fishing and sitting there looking stupid.
troutfiend1985 Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 As far as we know of, neither are personally responsible. I think this is why Lilley doesn't let us talk politics, somehow the conversation always turns out so intelligently. “The greatest menace to freedom is an inert people” J. Brandeis
gotmuddy Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 I personally dont believe the hail storm theory, seems bogus. everything in this post is purely opinion and is said to annoy you.
jdmidwest Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 If there had not been a bunch of killer tornado's on New Year's Eve, I would not have believed the hail storm either. That was a severe line of storms that came thru. But, when did they find the birds, what day, I can't seem to find that info. Large numbers of blackbirds have been moving thru in migration lately, I have watched clouds of them in strings that stretch out for a long time. One lightening bolt, downdraft, explosion could wipe out several in one swipe. Interesting to see what wiped out the drum, probably low water and O2 levels due to cold temps. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Zack Hoyt Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 Hey Phil.......anyway we could get some OA branded foil hats???? Maybe a copper lined sombrero........just thinking out loud. Zack Hoyt OAF Contributor Flies, Lies, and Other Diversions
taxidermist Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 The fish kill is on the Arkansas River near Ozark AR, a hell of a long way from Beebe! Sometimes lightning is not visible as it will fall outside the spectrum visible to human eyes. One theroy on the birds is the fireworks spooked them and they are not night flying birds, they were confused. So studies today announce that the bird internals looked like they had ran into objects at high speed. High wind slamming them into a house?
Tim Smith Posted January 4, 2011 Author Posted January 4, 2011 If there had not been a bunch of killer tornado's on New Year's Eve, I would not have believed the hail storm either. That was a severe line of storms that came thru. But, when did they find the birds, what day, I can't seem to find that info. Large numbers of blackbirds have been moving thru in migration lately, I have watched clouds of them in strings that stretch out for a long time. One lightening bolt, downdraft, explosion could wipe out several in one swipe. Interesting to see what wiped out the drum, probably low water and O2 levels due to cold temps. I also tend to believe the bird/hail thing. It has been seen before. I also think cold temps or at least a weather event that could have killed the drum, but cold increases O2 saturation levels in water. There should have been slighly more O2 in the water after a front, so it doesn't make sense that they suffocated. It could have been temperature shock, but if so, where are the other species of fish? Some of them would have died too. Also, was the temperature drop really that extreme, and why would this fish kill only have happened on that big river and not smaller ones. A bigger river should have responded more slowly to a cold front than other rivers around it. I'd put a dollar (and no more than a dollar) on a weather link between those 2 events...but it doesn't all make sense yet.
Tim Smith Posted January 4, 2011 Author Posted January 4, 2011 The fish kill is on the Arkansas River near Ozark AR, a hell of a long way from Beebe! Sometimes lightning is not visible as it will fall outside the spectrum visible to human eyes. One theroy on the birds is the fireworks spooked them and they are not night flying birds, they were confused. So studies today announce that the bird internals looked like they had ran into objects at high speed. High wind slamming them into a house? 60 miles? 70 miles? That's not far in terms of weather. Do you have a link to the bird announcement today?
taxidermist Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 http://agfcnews.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/blackbirds-fall-on-beebe-on-new-year%E2%80%99s-eve/ http://agfcnews.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/arkansas-river-fish-kill-investigation-continues/ Ozark Lock and dam is 124 miles in a straight line from Beebe. Beebe is north of Little rock . Ozark is about 40 miles east of Ft Smith. http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Ozark&state=AR Map to Beebe. http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Beebe&state=AR
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