flytyer57 Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 So will the poacher now get the carcass so he can have it mounted for bragging rights? There's a fine line between fishing and sitting there looking stupid.
denjac Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I think I pretty well called that right from the ealier posts on the subject. Back in my coonhunting days I have treed 5or 6 bobcats, 1 cougar in Northern Minnesota near Cass lake which was very rare. And 4 bear also on the Leach Lake Indian reservation In Northern Minnesota, so I know how cats react when being chased by dogs. Both Bobcats and the lion treed and bailed when we Got within 30 yard of the tree. This repeated 2 to 3 times before the cats tired and stayed put. We leashed our dogs and walked away with no fear of being attacked. The bears went up quick and stayed put. He was a lucky sucker that he made a good head shot, if not he might have really got attacked. I feel the MDC dropped the ball on this one. The least should have been a fine. Dennis Boothe Joplin Mo. For a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." ~ Winston Churchill ~
jdmidwest Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Has anyone on here ever been on a good ole MO. coonhunt? If not, you don't have a leg to stand on. You shine a light up a tree and see a set of eyes, it should be identified positively, but you never see the coon till it is way up a tree. Your batteries may be getting weak in the light you are carrying. You didn't see it running along the ground, so you don't know what run up there, the hounds usually pick up a trail out of sight. What you do see is a pair of eyes and an animal that flattens itself out against the limb to make itself small hoping you won't see it. It does not realize his eyes are glowing. You aim between the eyes for several reasons. One, it is a quick kill, the animal falls out instead of running into a hole. Second, it does the least damage to the fur which is why you are there in the first place. Third, it is the only target you have. Then this great big cat falls out of the sky and you think crap, look what I have done. You have heard stories that they are radio equipped and digging a hole won't help. Someone is going to find it and you are going to be in trouble, so you start fearing for your life. Then you think about all of the calves you probably saved and decide to come clean to the man. Did I leave anything out??? "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
ozark trout fisher Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Has anyone on here ever been on a good ole MO. coonhunt? If not, you don't have a leg to stand on. You shine a light up a tree and see a set of eyes, it should be identified positively, but you never see the coon till it is way up a tree. Your batteries may be getting weak in the light you are carrying. You didn't see it running along the ground, so you don't know what run up there, the hounds usually pick up a trail out of sight. What you do see is a pair of eyes and an animal that flattens itself out against the limb to make itself small hoping you won't see it. It does not realize his eyes are glowing. You aim between the eyes for several reasons. One, it is a quick kill, the animal falls out instead of running into a hole. Second, it does the least damage to the fur which is why you are there in the first place. Third, it is the only target you have. Then this great big cat falls out of the sky and you think crap, look what I have done. You have heard stories that they are radio equipped and digging a hole won't help. Someone is going to find it and you are going to be in trouble, so you start fearing for your life. Then you think about all of the calves you probably saved and decide to come clean to the man. Did I leave anything out??? Point #1 You are trying to tell me that, based on the distance between the two glowing eyes, that the guy couldn't have known this was no coon? Point #2 He didn't "come clean". He told a darn lie and then changed his story, leaving us all to wonder what really happened. If the turn of events here doesn't make you a little suspicious then I don't know what to say. Point #3 The first thing every hunter learns (or should learn) is that you should never shoot at an animal unless you are 100% sure what it is. You can't just be shooting at any old set of eyes you see up in a tree after dark. It could be anything.
jdmidwest Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Point #1 You are trying to tell me that, based on the distance between the two glowing eyes, that the guy couldn't have known this was no coon? Point #2 He didn't "come clean". He told a darn lie and then changed his story, leaving us all to wonder what really happened. If the turn of events here doesn't make you a little suspicious then I don't know what to say. Point #3 The first thing every hunter learns (or should learn) is that you should never shoot at an animal unless you are 100% sure what it is. You can't just be shooting at any old set of eyes you see up in a tree after dark. It could be anything. At no time in that statement did I condone what he did, I made a little humor out of it. You are right, as I stated, you should positively identify what you are shooting at. But that does not mean every hunter does that, if they did, goats would not get checked in during deer season. There was humor in the scenario I created, but if you have never done it, you will never realize how hard it may be to identify what you are shooting at holding a light on something up a tall tree pinned flat against a limb. He should have beat the dogs for treeing a lion, they probably will be worthless after this. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
denjac Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Has anyone on here ever been on a good ole MO. coonhunt? If not, you don't have a leg to stand on. You shine a light up a tree and see a set of eyes, it should be identified positively, but you never see the coon till it is way up a tree. Your batteries may be getting weak in the light you are carrying. You didn't see it running along the ground, so you don't know what run up there, the hounds usually pick up a trail out of sight. What you do see is a pair of eyes and an animal that flattens itself out against the limb to make itself small hoping you won't see it. It does not realize his eyes are glowing. You aim between the eyes for several reasons. One, it is a quick kill, the animal falls out instead of running into a hole. Second, it does the least damage to the fur which is why you are there in the first place. Third, it is the only target you have. Then this great big cat falls out of the sky and you think crap, look what I have done. You have heard stories that they are radio equipped and digging a hole won't help. Someone is going to find it and you are going to be in trouble, so you start fearing for your life. Then you think about all of the calves you probably saved and decide to come clean to the man. Did I leave anything out??? Jim, I felt some satire in your post, but will go ahead and respond in case you were serious: He stated that he knew it was a mountain Lion before shooting. Anybody that has coon hunted for any period of time knows when their dogs are on a cat. The dogs run hot,, much like a deer track. You know their running some kind of trash. Those cats when treed might snarl and growl, but they aint coming down into those dogs and humans. If he was any kind of coon hunter he knew long before he saw it they wernt running a coon. I would be willing to bet they saw it when it bailed on them, (and it did bail several times I am sure of that) and they knew then and there they were going to kill it. Dennis Boothe Joplin Mo. For a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." ~ Winston Churchill ~
eric1978 Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 You shine a light up a tree and see a set of eyes... ...Then this great big cat falls out of the sky and you think crap, look what I have done. Yeah, nice try with all that nonsense. Too bad the poacher admitted: “He followed his dogs up a draw and shined a light up into a tree and saw eyes that were too far apart for a raccoon,” said Yamnitz. You win some, you lose some. Just admit this guy is a Grade A you-know-what and we can move on. Quit trying to defend the indefensible.
jdmidwest Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 You win some, you lose some. Just admit this guy is a Grade A you-know-what and we can move on. Quit trying to defend the indefensible. I don't have to judge or defend him, not my job. The MDC judged and defended him and said he did not break the law. I just typed out a little story for the Chief, who found the story that proved him not guilty a few days back before he changed his story. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
eric1978 Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I don't have to judge or defend him, not my job. The MDC judged and defended him and said he did not break the law. Yeah, they let O.J. go, too. Just sayin'.
jdmidwest Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Yeah, they let O.J. go, too. Just sayin'. Funny you bring that up, was reading an article today about the Juice. I for one figured him as guilty, but I was not on the jury. F. Lee Bailey, Paper Proves OJ Innocence. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
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