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I will say MDC is doing a great job down a Duck Creek CA. Restoring the land to natural habitat with a vengence.

The Feds have the most to do with that.

"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."

Hunter S. Thompson

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http://duckcreekcaupdates.blogspot.com/

The North American Wetlands Conservation Act (NAWCA) provides matching grants to organizations and individuals who have developed partnerships to carry out wetlands conservation projects in the United States, Canada, and Mexico for the benefit of wetlands-associated migratory birds and other wildlife. Over the years Missouri Department of Conservation has utilized this source of funding and its partnerships to extend your dollar on wetland projects throughout the state. The Duck Creek Renovation is no different. The water control structures and work in Units A and B are partially funded by NAWCA dollars. In the coming year we will be submitting another grant proposal, which will include the plans for C Blind. If approved this work wouldn't happen until the summer of 2012.

I haven't found any fed money yet. But I am sure there is some.

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http://duckcreekcaupdates.blogspot.com/

The North American Wetlands Conservation Act (NAWCA) provides matching grants to organizations and individuals who have developed partnerships to carry out wetlands conservation projects in the United States, Canada, and Mexico for the benefit of wetlands-associated migratory birds and other wildlife. Over the years Missouri Department of Conservation has utilized this source of funding and its partnerships to extend your dollar on wetland projects throughout the state. The Duck Creek Renovation is no different. The water control structures and work in Units A and B are partially funded by NAWCA dollars. In the coming year we will be submitting another grant proposal, which will include the plans for C Blind. If approved this work wouldn't happen until the summer of 2012.

I haven't found any fed money yet. But I am sure there is some.

The North American Wetlands Conservation Act (NAWCA) is not state or local. It is Federal Grant money. MDC matches funds, but without the Grant, it would not happen.

Ducks.org on NAWCA

"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."

Hunter S. Thompson

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How about this one. The commission created by Stoneroller in 2011 turned out to be a dismal failure. The one thing the commission forgot was that man was footing the bill to pay for the department. Now man is almost extinct in MO. All of his habitat is protected to the point he can not eat, build a home, or make a living.

The streams that used to be full of fish are barren, cleared out by the overpopulation of River Otters since trapping was abolished. Man could no longer build a house since trees were protected and he could not make lumber from them. A few have resorted to living in cave, the few that are not barred shut because of snot nosed bats. Deer and other varmits have exploded in population making it impossible to raise a crop since hunting was abolished. Livestock is not allowed to be raised, they are a blight to the natural animals of the state of MO. Besides, the reintroduction of Elk make it impossible to build a fence to keep a cow in anyway.

The MDC has a purpose, the main one is educating people about the outdoors and management of all things outdoors.

"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."

Hunter S. Thompson

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Now man is almost extinct in MO...

...The streams that used to be full of fish are barren, cleared out by the overpopulation of River Otters since trapping was abolished.

First of all, JD, are you really as afraid as you sound? It would suck to be one of the fearful fifth.

Secondly, if man were almost extinct in MO, the streams would be abounding with fish, regardless of river otters. In fact, I'd have to assume they would eventually reach the balance they had before "man" starting dicking around with them and screwing things up...I'm sure it was quite a nice balance, since most fish species appear to have survived for tens of thousands of years and longer before we showed up.

Your scenario is starting to sound all right.

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First of all, JD, are you really as afraid as you sound? It would suck to be one of the fearful fifth.

Secondly, if man were almost extinct in MO, the streams would be abounding with fish, regardless of river otters. In fact, I'd have to assume they would eventually reach the balance they had before "man" starting dicking around with them and screwing things up...I'm sure it was quite a nice balance, since most fish species appear to have survived for tens of thousands of years and longer before we showed up.

Your scenario is starting to sound all right.

Oh Yeah, I am really skeered. What the hell is the fearful fifth, some kind of cheap whiskey?

"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."

Hunter S. Thompson

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Well how about this one. The commission created by Stoneroller in 2011 turned out to be a dismal failure. The one thing the commission forgot was that man was footing the bill to pay for the department. Since man was not allowed to use the outdoors except for animal observation, sales of licenses are non-existent and the dept folded.

"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."

Hunter S. Thompson

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How about this one. The commission created by Stoneroller in 2011 turned out to be a dismal failure. The one thing the commission forgot was that man was footing the bill to pay for the department. Now man is almost extinct in MO. All of his habitat is protected to the point he can not eat, build a home, or make a living.

The streams that used to be full of fish are barren, cleared out by the overpopulation of River Otters since trapping was abolished. Man could no longer build a house since trees were protected and he could not make lumber from them. A few have resorted to living in cave, the few that are not barred shut because of snot nosed bats. Deer and other varmits have exploded in population making it impossible to raise a crop since hunting was abolished. Livestock is not allowed to be raised, they are a blight to the natural animals of the state of MO. Besides, the reintroduction of Elk make it impossible to build a fence to keep a cow in anyway.

The MDC has a purpose, the main one is educating people about the outdoors and management of all things outdoors.

This is a more likely scenario if man was removed from the equation. The populations of game and fish would once again be living according to rules of ecology and natural selection, no longer inhibited by the medlings of an animal that doesn't recognize its self as an animal. The streams would be clear and free flowing uninhibited by dams, nutrient addition, and accelerated erosion. The food web would be restored to its natural state with apex predators included which would keep in check the lower trophic level consumers so that they did not over exploit the primary producers the whole community depended on. Compared to what we have now, I believe the system would function much better than it is at this time. The trick in management is to balance the human agenda with the natural world. Not everyone can be appeased and no one should expect to have all of their thoughts on "the way it should be" implemented into policy.

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Well how about this one. The commission created by Stoneroller in 2011 turned out to be a dismal failure. The one thing the commission forgot was that man was footing the bill to pay for the department. Since man was not allowed to use the outdoors except for animal observation, sales of licenses are non-existent and the dept folded.

So I guess you're saying you have a problem with conservation? I don't understand what your scenarios are supposed to suggest.

What the hell is the fearful fifth, some kind of cheap whiskey?

LOL That's pretty good, but no. It's what we crazy libs call the 20% of Americans who are terrified of progress.

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Fearful fifth.....???? lol, man I hate crazy libs. 20% of Americans....the extreme, wacked out left hates more than 20%..... they hate America in general.

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