Phil Shuts Em Down When Conservatives Speak

[Mitch f]

Dude, this is a "General Angling Discussion" and no, I don't see Lilley only shutting down only the right side. Could it possibly be, as the wise one (Cricket) suggests, that the Left side on this forum is a little more sly about posting their opinions. And by the way, before someone starts telling me I'm blue in the face, actually I would probably be considered a moderate independent, with a slight socialist drawl. Not for either side, and if you really get down to it, both sides are illogical for numerous reasons.

Anyways, Zach had an interesting topic, when to switch patterns. I guess it comes down to how well you know the stream. I know what my go to patterns are on Crane. In order, if this were in the summer: BHPT olive flashback 16-18 is my number one. If I'm working the holes that I like and not getting anything off of it, and I know that I'm not spooking them as I have my ninja mojo going, then I go to my "Dirty Bird" to which I'm not going to give the pattern away on that one yet. This is a real go getter out there, if that isn't working, then I know that my technique is off, wading to close or I'm lining them. If I fix my hypothetical problems, and the dirty bird still isn't working then I switch up to beadhead caddis. That would be my third fly of choice. But usually I'm not getting that far into my box. I know that it's usually technique over pattern, but pattern does have a lot to do with it IMHO. Just as an example about the importance of pattern, out at yellowstone last year I was killing them on a sz 18 parachute Adams. Switched over to a pattern recommended by BRF, just to see how the trout would react, and nothing. I actually had my A game going that day, a day where the pattern did matter, caught 15 in one day off of Slough Creek. .

No one said anything when the March Madness posts were in full bloom, nor did I.

[Smalliebigs]

oh don't give away any of your patterns......ttttssssttt

I agree with Mitch but, don't really worry about it, I just don't post trip reports and pics anymore.....it's not worth the BS.

I do know Mitch is a darn fine fisherman and alot of you guys would benefit big time just beeing around him on the river.

[troutfiend1985]

No one said anything when the March Madness posts were in full bloom, nor did I.

Difference is that Lilley would like us to stay away from politics. That is the rub, nothing more or less than that. I do not think your political opinions are off base, however there is a proper time, place and manner in which to post certain elements of anyone’s opinions. Therefore, to make it clear, if you want to talk politics no one is stopping you, but there are proper forums in which to discuss your opinions on certain issues. This forum, as requested by the owner of the site, is not one of them. It's simple, and the reasons are rational, in that people tend to argue about frivolous stances to which no claim having any merits can be made on one side or the other and constant ad hominem attacks are made in the guise of political speech/opinions. Two bull elephants start it, blue and red, and then there is a dog pile. Look at those forums that were shut down, and there is a lot of nonsense on both sides. Look at the March madness posts, and there tends to be less personal attacks.

Here's a great place to start with political opinions, your local representative.

And you might be thinking that I am inconsistent, in that my signature carries a classic first amendment quote. However, you do have to recognize that this is not a government actor stopping you, it is a private citizens request, in that the owner of this site is not willing to let a dog pile of personal attacks happen on his forum in the name of political speech. Inches and degrees.

This thread is dead to me boys and girls. Have a good one. I see red x’s in the future.

[flytyer57]

Or maybe he's a communist.

You mean to tell me he likes Obama?

[flytyer57]

Dude, this is a "General Angling Discussion" and no, I don't see Lilley only shutting down only the right side.

Or the wrong side either.

[Flysmallie]

No one said anything when the March Madness posts were in full bloom, nor did I.

Well he doesn't have a rule against basketball posts. Politics is out and he can shut it down when ever he wants to. Maybe try the Glenn Beck forum. Talking politics is such a waste of time anyway. Nobody ever changes their opinions.

[FishinCricket]

Could you guys help me with this, please?

http://ozarkanglers.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27692

Hey, whassamattayou!?!? The owner of this joint requested that we attempt to stay on topic???!?!!??

Oh, wait.. It's you.

Carry on then...

[Zack Hoyt]

........so what?

It's Phil's board, Phil's prerogative, Phil's way. He is not forcing you to come back day after day. Your not donating money to help pay for the server space, nor donating to help pay for tech support, nor(or so you say) adding fishing reports or pics.

SOOOOO.......quit yer bitchin'. Actually if your not here to post reports or share pics.....and its such an awful place......why come back?

[rps]

I don't know why I even opened this thread. I guess it's like having a chance to see a train wreck.

[Mitch f]

........so what?

It's Phil's board, Phil's prerogative, Phil's way. He is not forcing you to come back day after day. Your not donating money to help pay for the server space, nor donating to help pay for tech support, nor(or so you say) adding fishing reports or pics.

SOOOOO.......quit yer bitchin'. Actually if your not here to post reports or share pics.....and its such an awful place......why come back?

not really about politics, just pointing out a bias