The "your Vote Counts" Thread

[snagged in outlet 3]

I mean drive the canoe...

SIO3

[flytyer57]

I mean drive the canoe...

SIO3

What? You can't drive a canoe down I-44!!!!

[woodman]

Good! I really and truly hoped it worked. If I were this sheriff though .. . would've been mighty difficult to suppress a chuckle as I read over that there internet-derived petition from ya'll. And Chief showing up at the station to turn himself in. This is some good drama anyways.

In any event, we should organize a mass float through this Prater guys property and have a weiny roast on his gravel bar.

One thing...must have a video cam....cause this guy needs a you tube audition....

[drew03cmc]

Looks like my post was one that was deleted, conservative landowner speaks, then gets deleted. Oh well, going to the Sheriff with an internet post list that starts off with a statement from the Blue Collar Comedy Tour will probably not hold much water.

JD, as usual, your "conservative" landowner speech lacks vision of anything other than your opinion. You fail to see that you may pay taxes on the land you own, but the people of Missouri pay taxes on the water and the fish, and as such, you cannot legally forbid someone from fishing that creek unless it is wholly encompassed in your land. I, and obviously others, do not care that you pay taxes on the land you own. Let us fish and enjoy something all residents of Missouri pay for.

[jdmidwest]

Since the post was deleted, most of you missed the point. Those who don't own a stretch of land that people trespass and abuse can not really grasp the meaning of my post, hence the hover craft analogy. I don't have a stream that most can float, and I don't personally have a problem with persons wading thru my property or floating for that matter. But, as a landowner, I can understand the feelings that the person on the other side of the Shoal Creek thing has. Yes you, and I, have a right to the flowing waters of the streams and the fish in them. I exercise that right all of the time. You don't have a right to access the property that surrounds it.

But I see more purple paint, more signs, more hostility to persons that access and float streams. And there is an underlying reason, most landowners have been burnt in the past and are more hostile in the approach of persons on their property. Like I stated, around here, it is becoming common knowledge that the land you own is yours, others only have the right to hover over it or float. The low water/high water mark is not really law in some counties, it depends on the prosecuting attorney of the county. But, when I have approached landowners before I cross the land, most allow me to. But, I have been barred access from a spot that I have accessed for years when younger by a landowner. I respect his ownership and will not cross. It is not like it is the only place to go, but it hurts.

Last deer season, I posted a stretch of fence line along one side of our property to avoid getting caught in the cross fire of others shooting in our field as deer crossed. The only reason I decided to hunt that portion was because the rest of the farm was undergoing a timber cut. 15 people felt offended enough to ask me why I put the purple tape up. There is only one landowner that borders me in that area. But, they seemed to understand my reasoning. It was a safety issue.

I understand most don't understand my posts, I am sure most on here own less than an acre. If you own more, you will probably see both sides.

[ozark trout fisher]

My bad.

[jdmidwest]

My bad.

Yep.

[drew03cmc]

Since the post was deleted, most of you missed the point. Those who don't own a stretch of land that people trespass and abuse can not really grasp the meaning of my post, hence the hover craft analogy. I don't have a stream that most can float, and I don't personally have a problem with persons wading thru my property or floating for that matter. But, as a landowner, I can understand the feelings that the person on the other side of the Shoal Creek thing has. Yes you, and I, have a right to the flowing waters of the streams and the fish in them. I exercise that right all of the time. You don't have a right to access the property that surrounds it.

But I see more purple paint, more signs, more hostility to persons that access and float streams. And there is an underlying reason, most landowners have been burnt in the past and are more hostile in the approach of persons on their property. Like I stated, around here, it is becoming common knowledge that the land you own is yours, others only have the right to hover over it or float. The low water/high water mark is not really law in some counties, it depends on the prosecuting attorney of the county. But, when I have approached landowners before I cross the land, most allow me to. But, I have been barred access from a spot that I have accessed for years when younger by a landowner. I respect his ownership and will not cross. It is not like it is the only place to go, but it hurts.

Last deer season, I posted a stretch of fence line along one side of our property to avoid getting caught in the cross fire of others shooting in our field as deer crossed. The only reason I decided to hunt that portion was because the rest of the farm was undergoing a timber cut. 15 people felt offended enough to ask me why I put the purple tape up. There is only one landowner that borders me in that area. But, they seemed to understand my reasoning. It was a safety issue.

I understand most don't understand my posts, I am sure most on here own less than an acre. If you own more, you will probably see both sides.

Who implied that we had a right to the land around the creek? Define around the creek. Are you saying we have no right to be on gravel bars, portaging around downed trees or walking the immediate bank, below the high water line?

[FishinCricket]

Who implied that we had a right to the land around the creek? Define around the creek. Are you saying we have no right to be on gravel bars, portaging around downed trees or walking the immediate bank, below the high water line?

Exactly.. Nuff said.

[jdmidwest]

Who implied that we had a right to the land around the creek? Define around the creek. Are you saying we have no right to be on gravel bars, portaging around downed trees or walking the immediate bank, below the high water line?

Yes. Around here, the law is becoming anything that is dry. Even wading on the stream bottom according to Madison County and whatever county East Prairie resides in per MDC.