junkman Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Ok guys I got a new question for you. what advice do you have for a good aluminum canoe. Need one that can set three and be fished out of. thought about a 17 foot Grumman for they seem the highest in price so assume they are a better one. Any advice would be appreciated. I know they will be louder then most but have about a gallon of the liquid rubber that you use to dip tool handles in. Thought it might work to deaden the sound. Tell me if that is a good idea or a bad one. Thanks Mark
Chief Grey Bear Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Bad idea. If you wrapped it Rhino Bedliner, it would still be as loud as a mother-in-law! You just can't shut either one of them up! If all you were going to do was some catfishing or duck hunting, I would be ok with it. But I don't think that is all you will be doing. Just me when I tell you, and so will everyone else, stay away from aluminum. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
jdmidwest Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 The 17 Grumman is a workhorse, I bought mine used from Wood's Canoe back in the 80's and it still works fine today. It has not seen much water for the last 5 years since I started using kayaks and bought a river jon. It does make a nice mower cover... Would be tough to fish 3 out of it, 2 would be the max comfortably. New plastic composite material canoes are quieter and lighter, an Old Town or Buffalo would be a good choice in those. The Rhino coat would not help much as Chief stated. A couple of mats in the bottom for your feet and gear would be better. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
gotmuddy Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Anymore I can see no reason to pick a aluminum canoe over a plastic one, especially with the price of aluminum canoes nowadays. Any particular reason you want aluminum over plastic? everything in this post is purely opinion and is said to annoy you.
junkman Posted September 20, 2011 Author Posted September 20, 2011 I'm just looking for a used canoe that will work for three people to go fishing in, but have found that I can buy an aluminum canoe cheaper then a plastic (that's if you look in the right spot). Most of your like old towns are two seaters but seen a 17 ft. Grumman with four seats for $325. don't need four seats but at least it had three. Yes it would be nice to have one of those nicer ones but I just can't afford one of those right now. Just looking for something cheap, dependable and accommodating to have fun in.
eric1978 Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 I'm just looking for a used canoe that will work for three people to go fishing in, but have found that I can buy an aluminum canoe cheaper then a plastic (that's if you look in the right spot). Most of your like old towns are two seaters but seen a 17 ft. Grumman with four seats for $325. don't need four seats but at least it had three. Yes it would be nice to have one of those nicer ones but I just can't afford one of those right now. Just looking for something cheap, dependable and accommodating to have fun in. Look for a used Old Town Discovery 169 on craigslist and ebay. There are tons of them and you should be able to find one in the $325 price range. That's gonna be your best bet for what you're looking to pay. They're easily repairable, too, if it's a little beat up. Also, Spencer recently said he's got a few beat up Buffalo canoes that he was selling for insanely cheap...like $75 or $100 or something. You can't go wrong with anything at that price. Grab some G-Flex and fix 'er up and she'll float just fine. Aluminum bad, plastic good.
Al Agnew Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Noise isn't the only bad thing about aluminum. The other thing I really don't like is, when you take an aluminum canoe on a shallow river, the aluminum "grabs" the rocks and gravel rather than sliding over them. You'll stop dead on shallow gravel or a log with an aluminum, where you'll slip right over it with plastic or fiberglass. On the other hand, an aluminum canoe will last forever with no maintenance...leave it out in the sun for 40 years, scrape it over 20,000 miles of shallow riffles, and it'll still be serviceable. That describes my first canoe, a 15 foot Grumman bought around 1970, which is still serviceable (my brother in law now owns it as a beater canoe for his kids, and now his grandkids). By the way, though, you can also leave the Discos and Royalex canoes out in the weather for 20 years...as long as the outer vinyl skin is intact and you give it an Armor All or Formula 303 treatment a couple times a year. They will discolor badly if you don't, but the outer vinyl is pretty tough. Just quickly repair any scratch that goes through the ABS in the foam center, because the foam center will disintegrate very quickly when exposed to the weather.
mic Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 By the way, though, you can also leave the Discos and Royalex canoes out in the weather for 20 years...as long as the outer vinyl skin is intact and you give it an Armor All or Formula 303 treatment a couple times a year. They will discolor badly if you don't, but the outer vinyl is pretty tough. Just quickly repair any scratch that goes through the ABS in the foam center, because the foam center will disintegrate very quickly when exposed to the weather. How do you repair it?
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