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Phil Lilley

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I'm compiling general info on a few rivers and need some help.

First, what are the sections you can float on the Current, mileage, put-in's and take-out's.

Second, describe what the river is like generally and what the fishing is like on those sections.

This was covered some in a post recently- that's what spawned this idea.

I'll do this for the Elevenpoint too.

Thanks.

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Here's what I've got:

Blue Ribbon – Montauk to Cedar Grove.

White Ribbon – Cedar Grove downstream.

Montauk Park boundary (0.0 miles) Access

Follow CR 667 through Park

N37° 26.732′ W91° 40.142′

Tan Vat (0.6) Access

CR 667 through Park 1.5 miles to CR 664 right

N37° 26.999′ W91° 39.659′

Bluffs (1.4) Access 0.5 miles upstream from Baptist

Baptist Camp (1.9) Access

CR 667 from Tan Vat 1 mi to Baptist Camp Access sign right; 1.5 miles to access

N37° 26.108′ W91° 39.332′

Ashley Creek (3.1) No access

N37° 25.745′ W91° 38.988′

Love’s Cabin

Dumpster Run

The Horseshoe (3.8 ) Access by difficult road ¼ mile past turn-off for Baptist. Best for four-wheel drive vehicles only.

Large bend in the river with steep bluffs.

N37° 25.223′ W91° 38.664′

Parker Hollow (6.3) Access

CR 667 from Baptist Camp Access road 0.7 miles to CR 652 right CR 652 1.7 miles to access

N37° 26.219′ W91° 37.198′

Cedargrove (8.4) Access

N37° 25.078′ W91° 36.225′

John

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Looking at the map- this is what I see:

Tan Tav Access

Baptist Camp Access

Akers Access

Access at Boyd's Creek ?

Round House Access

Jack's Fork Access

Access at 106 ?

Log Yard off HH Access

Beal Landing Access

Van Buren Access

Clubhouse Landing Access

Catarac Landing Access

Hickory Landing Access

Gooseneck Campground Access

Forest Service Camp Access

Deer Leap Access

Dun Roven Access

Doniphan Access

Just asking for description of river and fishing info on sections - general info. Advice for anyone wanting to float and fish.

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Southwest Paddler site will give you the info you need on accesses, mileage, etc. The first link covers the stretch from Tan Vat to Big Spring, the second from Big Spring to the Arkansas line.

http://southwestpaddler.com/docs/current2.html

http://southwestpaddler.com/docs/current3.html

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Not making myself clear.

On my maps I did for oa, there are mileage points but with so many access points, which are the most common/popular floats- between what points? The float companies have their favorites and may be that's what I should go with. But more than that, since I've never been on this river, I'd like to provide a fishing description of different sections of the river, different floats. The distances are not necessarily important because I can figure it out but it is important in fishing cause you don't want to do a big long float in a day when you want to take time and fish.

In a recent post here, someone mentioned, Gavin I think, that one section is a dead zone. That's good info for an angler.

Thanks.

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Phil, the milage on the maps is pretty accurate....there are tons of illegal access points...so those who run their own...can get in and get out just about anywhere...Most popular floats for the rentals...

Jadwin Canoe...Baptist to Cedar Grove....Blue Ribbon Trout...great water

Akers Ferry Canoe Rental...Cedar to Akers. Stocker Rainbow Have a Fish Fry Water

Current River Canoe Rental....Akers to Pulltite...Leave your rod at home and fish in the cooler water

Carr's Canoe Rental...Pulltite to Round Spring...Fair Fishing, Hit the good spots...but bring a full cooler just in case.

Two Rivers Canoe Rental...Round Spring to Two Rivers, or Williams to Two Rivers..Fishing picks up...but you will have jet boats to contend with.

Most of the other rentals are way down river in the redneck riviera....some good water down that way though....

Favorite Camp Spots....on the river anywhere. Akers Group Sites...Pulltite Group Sites...Jerktail landing...and that is about it.

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I think you can divide the river into sections about like this:

Montauk to Cedargrove--the best trout water, floatable but pretty small water, trout fishing is probably better the further upstream you go but remains good throughout. Scenery is terrific, with lots of wild country, pretty bluffs, and clear, fast water.

Cedargrove to Akers Ferry--Trout fishing declines somewhat (especially if it's been a while since the stocking trucks were there) but it actually becomes possible to target smallmouth--not good smallie fishing, but they are there. Scenery is similar to above.

Akers to Round Spring--after you get a mile or so below Akers the trout thin out due to no stocking, and the whole stretch is basically too cold for good fishing for much of anything else. Great floating when the summer crowds aren't around, great scenery, very poor fishing.

Round Spring to Two Rivers--the fishing turns to smallies, and it can be very good. Jetboats become common. Summer hordes of party floaters are a big problem. But if you can do it when the crowds aren't there the scenery is fantastic, with high, impressive bluffs and big, clean gravel bars around every bend.

Two Rivers to (whatever access it is about 8 miles above Van Buren--geez, I hate not having my Missouri float books out here in Montana)--The river gets considerably bigger due to the influx of the Jacks Fork. Jetboats very prevalent, canoes and other floaters much less common due to lack of any canoe rentals wanting to fool with this stretch, especially below Powdermill. Big deep pools, wide riffles, high bluffs, huge gravel bars, and the smallmouth fishing can be very good.

That access to Big Spring--wall to wall jetboats throughout much the summer, dodging all the inner tubers and pool raft floaters pulling coolers of beer, canoes, kayaks, you name it. Much of this part of the river is outside the boundaries of the Riverways, so you even see some cabins and houses along the river, some trashy, some fancy. So scenery isn't as good.

Big Spring to Doniphan--The river is even bigger, deeper, and somewhat slower. Still jetboat city, but for a while it's back in the Riverways and the scenery is very nice, though the bluffs start to get lower and less impressive the farther down you go. This section sees a lot of bass tournaments with big, high power jetboats roaring up and down it, but it can produce some big smallies.

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What about fishing in the fall? Say during the week, is the traffic much less?

I guess a question would be what's the best time to fish it if you had the time whenever... Weekdays of course are best off-season, right? I'd think winter would be good too during warm spells.

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